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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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I was wondering how come I have to balance my winter tire wheels when I already did it last year. The tires are on rim and are 1 year old.

This spring, I changed my winter tires for my summer tires and didn't have to balance them. They were fine for all summer. Yesterday I putted my winters on and f*** it was shaky at 110 km/h and at 150km/h I was the one shaking too.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Unless you bent the rim or there is some other problems, a rim only has to be balanced once.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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anytime you change your tires you need to get them balanced...you really arent balanceing the tires, you are balancing the combo of where the tire and rim sit with each other, so you wont have any spot of the wheel that is uneven with the rest...
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxgator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anytime you change your tires you need to get them balanced...you really arent balanceing the tires, you are balancing the combo of where the tire and rim sit with each other, so you wont have any spot of the wheel that is uneven with the rest...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Now your talking about changing just the tire correct ( putting a new tire on the same rim ) ? I was under the impression he has a tire/rim winter set up where all he has to do is unbolt the tire/rim set up that is on his car and bolt up the other combo.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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i took it the other way...oh well maybe this guy needs some english lessons first...
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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Sorry guys not my mother tongue. Blackcrx understood it the way want it to. I have a winter and a summer set up in other words I have 8 rims for the car.
Maybe one of the weight shift places or just fell off. Could this happen
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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it could happen...did you also check your tire pressure before you put them back on the car?
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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Yeah everything is fine, 210 in front and 200 in the back just as it's supposed to.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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things liek alignment and failing to rotate the tires from front to back will cause balance issues as the tires weeear different ways in different locations on the car. rotating them evens tehm out so each tire is similar to the one in front/behind it. poor alignment also causes the tires to wear unevenly/different from eachother. if you had no problems last winter but are now it may be because you didn't mount the wheels in the same location as they were last mounted.

all in all, get an alignment and have your wheels rebalanced using a roadforce type balancer.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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what balancing a tire is, is actually equalizing the tire weight imbalance. see what happens is, that they cant make a tire or rim that is exactly the same amount of material/wieght all the way around. so when you put a tire on a balancing machine and it spins the tire/wheel combo, it feels where the heavy spots in the tire/wheel are. thats what the weights are for. where ever the heavy spot is you put the weight that the machine tells you 180 degrees from the heavy spot. its simple physics.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kylefakesi-r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">things liek alignment and failing to rotate the tires from front to back will cause balance issues as the tires weeear different ways in different locations on the car. rotating them evens tehm out so each tire is similar to the one in front/behind it. poor alignment also causes the tires to wear unevenly/different from eachother. if you had no problems last winter but are now it may be because you didn't mount the wheels in the same location as they were last mounted.

all in all, get an alignment and have your wheels rebalanced using a roadforce type balancer.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i couldnt agree more. but also make sure the tires are rotated in the correct order.

RF to LR, LF to RR, RR to RF, and LR to LF
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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When I took the winter rims off the car last spring, I carefully marked them Fl ,Fr,lR,rR so that I could rotate them. I use the crossover pattern, Fl becomes rR,Fr..lR and lR..Fl rR..Fr. I don't understand when you say

''it may be because you didn't mount the wheels in the same location as they were last mounted.'' For shure I didn't do that, I rotated them.

There is no trace of uneven wearing on tires.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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My direction is OK, a few days ago I had my summer rims on with no problem at all. Isn't the alignement only when you car tends to a side or the other.

It's not the case here.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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well wait a minute how agressive is the tread pattern compared to the summer wheels?
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:50 PM
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Euhh the winter tires are new. It's just an ordinary motomaster radial winter tire. The summer tires are smooth as a baby's *** ( did a lot of spinning).
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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thats prolly it then! cause even if the tread pattern is even mildly aggressive it would cause your car to shake at those speeds
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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Well last year I didn't do that, I'm not the kind of guy that goes 180km/h on winter roads but I can assure you that it didn't do what it's doing right now. I'm wondering too if it's dangerous to drive with that, can you loose traction?
I guess so coz the center of gravity is not at it's center
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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i dunno what to tell you man its got to be wheels/tires or something in the driveline (suspension/or steering)
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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Ok thanks guys
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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also unless your cv joints are starting to go bad?
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 11:43 PM
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How did you store the tires over the summer ?
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