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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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Default 3" clearence, I want to keep it that way...

I know this question has been asked before, but I couldn't find where (Yes, I used the search.) I want to know the best/cheapest suspension combo for my car. I need adjustable coilovers, struts, and shocks. I want to keep my current ride height (maybe a little higher in the winter 'cause of the snow.) I don't want to drop a huge load of cash, and I am tempted to go eBay... Anyone have any good ideas?



The local car wash wouldn't let me through because the car sits too low. I like it that way!
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 06:02 AM
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Default Re: 3" clearence, I want to keep it that way... (knoj)

If you want, you could go with Tein Suspension. It is a bit pricey, but I know that the setup that I am going to get will allow for a RAISE of .7" and a lower of .5" at its highest setting. That way, if you want to take it through the carwash, you can raise it up to about stock ride height. I wouldn't take it to the carwash though, they are bad .

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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 06:31 AM
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Ground Control coilovers are pretty good too. They use Eibach springs and are fairly versatile when it comes to adjusting them. As far as shocks you could look at Koni Yellows, or maybe KYB AGX.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 06:34 AM
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Default Re: 3" clearence, I want to keep it that way... (knoj)

believe it or not I was suprised at how well my R-1 coilovers are holding up. Ive had them on there for well over 3 years with tokico illumina shocks and they have lasted. no jacked up coils or anything. I was riding my front end too low for a while which resulted in 1 blown shock which ive since replaced. but its a fairly cheap option for you. 400 for a set of iluminas and 200 for some coilover sleeves isnt too bad.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 06:59 AM
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Default Re: 3" clearence, I want to keep it that way... (knoj)

ground control or skunk2 coilovers ~$250 new
koni yellows (these will definitely handle skunk2 rates and an extreme drop ) ~$450 new

a lot of people go with kyb agx's as well... ~$300 new

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...33582
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ****** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ground Control coilovers are pretty good too. They use Eibach springs and are fairly versatile when it comes to adjusting them. As far as shocks you could look at Koni Yellows, or maybe KYB AGX.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If he insists on riding around that low, he'd probably be better off with a threaded shock body setup (like Tein or Omnipower) rather than a sleeve setup with off-the-shelf dampers. OTS Konis would not allow enough travel with a car that low, and he'd be bottoming out everywhere, especially with street-friendly spring rates. They would either have to be shortened to allow a decent amount of travel, or he would have to run high spring rates.

My CRX race car isn't quite that low, but I have limited travel even with 500f/600r spring rates. I would have to get my Konis shortened to go much lower. I am not sure if the extra travel Honda gave to 5G and 6G Civics would make enough difference.

If the stunnas want to ride around with a stunna ride height, might as well recommend stunna parts for them. Real performance pieces won't do much good on a show car. Besides, the damping curves on the low end Tein crap are suited well for street use - sure, they suck on the track, but I doubt this car will ever see a track.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If he insists on riding around that low, he'd probably be better off with a threaded shock body setup (like Tein or Omnipower) rather than a sleeve setup with off-the-shelf dampers. If the stunnas want to ride around with a stunna ride height, might as well recommend stunna parts for them. Real performance pieces won't do much good on a show car. Besides, the damping curves on the low end Tein crap are suited well for street use - sure, they suck on the track, but I doubt this car will ever see a track.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with you on the threaded shock body setup, that probably would be best. From my experience, Skunk 2's really low are bouncy as ****, but I have seen, and driven some cars with Ground Control that were very low and still rode very nice. I was suprised that a sleeve coilover setup could perform that well when it was dialed that low.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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Default Re: 3" clearence, I want to keep it that way... (Targa250R)

I'm running GC coilovers with 400f/250r (street car) and koni yellows on my EG. I must say the car feels so perfect. My car is just as low as yours, so I spent an extra $100 for a pair of the ground control top hats for the front. They allow for 3/4" extra suspension travel on whichever corner you put them on (fron or rear for 88-00 civics & Integras). You will have to cut their bumpstops (leaving a minimum of 1" of bumpstop), but once you do, you'll have just as much travel in the front, as you do in the rears (I think my car is slightly lower in the front).

My civic feels better over bumps than my STOCK crx.

Beautiful EK by the way. I like the painted headlight housings...
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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Default Re: 3" clearence, I want to keep it that way... (94eg!)

right now im runnin kyb agx's and H&R sports, its a great combo imo. The adjustability of the kyb's is awesome.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ****** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I agree with you on the threaded shock body setup, that probably would be best. From my experience, Skunk 2's really low are bouncy as ****, but I have seen, and driven some cars with Ground Control that were very low and still rode very nice. I was suprised that a sleeve coilover setup could perform that well when it was dialed that low.</TD></TR></TABLE>
My concern isn't really where the threads are placed, but rather the dampers themselves and the amount of suspension travel they allow. From what I've seen, most threaded shock body coilover setups will allow more suspension travel at low ride heights than a non-threaded OTS replacement damper. Of course, I am generalizing, so take my words with a grain of salt . . .

The Konis may have better dyno curves, but the better valving won't do much good when the car is so low that it is bottoming out over everything and damaging the shock internally. The problem isn't the shock itself, but rather the stunna using it.

JMO, YMMV.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm running GC coilovers with 400f/250r (street car) and koni yellows on my EG. I must say the car feels so perfect. My car is just as low as yours, so I spent an extra $100 for a pair of the ground control top hats for the front. They allow for 3/4" extra suspension travel on whichever corner you put them on (fron or rear for 88-00 civics & Integras). You will have to cut their bumpstops (leaving a minimum of 1" of bumpstop), but once you do, you'll have just as much travel in the front, as you do in the rears (I think my car is slightly lower in the front).</TD></TR></TABLE>
You know, it never crossed my mind to suggest the GC upper mounts. Great idea.

GC/Koni with the GC upper mounts to extend the travel would be my recommendation.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:51 AM
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Default Re: 3" clearence, I want to keep it that way... (Targa250R)

yea i have the same question but what are the prices for the setups abovve
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