Ok guys i dont know what to do, im hoping you guys can help me out with the postives and negatives about these to so i can decide which to do.

I got my job back and i got some $$ now so Im tryin to figure out what to spend it on. right now i gota B16a2 in my eg hatch. i dont know whether to go turbo or all motor.. i was hopin you guys would have some input on the positives and negatives on the two. first the car is a daily driver usually.

my current setup:
jdm b16a2
jdm b16 tranny
'00 itr cams
euro type r throttle body
itr intake mani
cai
greddy header & test pipe
skunk2 cam gears
jun flywheel
vafc1
rsr exmag catback
p28 socketed chipped by kenji for this current setup im running

i have new jun springs/retainers waiting to till i get my jun2 or 3 cams

Now heres the question


b20b block
b16 head
jun3 cams
jun springs/retainers
euro itr tb
itr mani
and everyting else i got plus my 50shot

OR ????


b16a2
turbo
jun2 cams
jun springs retainers
and so on...... with or w/o 50shot????


ok guys i hope you can help me figure this out b/c im impatient and i wana get somethin but i dont wana *** my car up. thanks for ur input in advance. heres a pic of my hatchy btw

 

uumm i dont think if its a b16a2 its jdm, the 2 would make it USDM jdm motors do not have a number in the code.... so you might wana watch where you say that, you will get people saying this alot...

 

its jdm i know for a fact. and its the 2nd gen

 

well, if you go turbo you really dont want to use jun II's .

 

turbo vs na?!!! wow what a refreshingly original post!!! i can tell you used the search on this one!!! hey now im going to start a new topic about idle problems!! or which engines are easy swaps into my car. or which model civic weighs the least!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shaundrake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">turbo vs na?!!! wow what a refreshingly original post!!! i can tell you used the search on this one!!! hey now im going to start a new topic about idle problems!! or which engines are easy swaps into my car. or which model civic weighs the least!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>the reason why i asked turbo vs. na waws b/c i listed my setup and which is better but more which is more reliable, ive heard from people the b20 with b16 head and **** there engines blow. so i dont know which to do and i was hoping some people could actually help me out instead of givin smart *** comments

 

If you go B20 with a turbo, I'm almost certain you'll have to sleeve it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ****** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you go B20 with a turbo, I'm almost certain you'll have to sleeve it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh yeah? why is that?

 

cylinder walls aren't very thick from what i understand.

anyways, if you want reliability, you should go with NA. if you want to go really really fast, go boost.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigBooster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cylinder walls aren't very thick from what i understand.

anyways, if you want reliability, you should go with NA. if you want to go really really fast, go boost.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hehe, yeah they are weaker, not only for thickness, but also for construction.
but that does not mean in any way that you HAVE to sleeve for turbo. maybe if your making like 400whp.
if the engine is tuned right and driven the right way then you should have no problems

 

ok, maybe "have to' wasn't the right terminology

But, it seems as though it would be a good idea. I always thought the walls were weaker like you said, and usually have heard if you boost it, you might as well sleeve it to be safe.

 

flip coin and start building...

ive seen b20s run boost reliabely...

 

its really a question of preference. I myself like allmotor , but turbo are also pretty dope as they freaking hawl *** in the top ends. but i like my power at all times something about linear power is just more for me.

 

The B16 seems to be a great option for street-driven turbo cars. They don't have as much torque down-low as B18s, B20s, etc., so you don't have to worry too much about wheelspin on launches from a dead stop. With a b16 motor you don't get peak HP until very high in the RPM which is another advantage because you will be going a higher MPH when you hit the most power and torque and you have get more traction. Then for the top-end, a nicely-sized turbo will do the job So you'd have a good amount of power, and driveability won't be too bad.

Just my 2cents

 

anyone else?

 

"b16a2
turbo
jun2 cams
jun springs retainers
and so on...... with or w/o 50shot????"

Stick with ITR cams, with springs and retainers for the turbo setup. Use the money for pistons[+rings], and rods. The stock sleeves should be fine if you're going to be running low boost. Or you could just go all out and build the block and run crazy amounts of boost. Also, get rid of the VAFC and get it really tuned [hondata, uberdata, crome.. something of this nature] by someone who knows what the hell they're doing. Don't spray.. you'll just blow it up even faster

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by klubhed1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its jdm i know for a fact. and its the 2nd gen </TD></TR></TABLE>

B16A2 is a 99-00 civic Si USDM motor......if yours says B16A and its OBD-1 then you have a 2G JDM motor. If it is stamped B16A2....then sorry, its USDM.