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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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Default Please help...need H-T advice w/dilemma!!??

[I've done a fair amount of searching on this topic, so I'm asking based on researching.]

To begin with I have a 2000 cx hatch. A few days ago my exhaust started making noise and today it fell off. Basically, it's rusted at the b-pipe. I'm in med school at the moment and i don't have a lot of cash. Honda wanted to charge me $300 for b-pipe and install after looking at it, but I don't want to get a new b-pipe and something else starts to rust. So, i'm thinking about replacing the whole system from the header back to avoid future drama. I would like to increase performacne slightly, although I do realize this is a 1.6L vechicle that sees autox on weekends. Keeping my circumstances in mind...

Ok, so the questions are:
(1) if i go aftermarket would i need to purchase ex parts (header/cat/exhaust) for my car? Will it bolt up correctly?
(2) if i decided to go oem could i use an ex header/cat/exhaust or si for my car?

Thanks in advance. I've always gotten good replies on H-T.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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don't go oem, just buy a catback and a high flow header or go to your local muffler shop and they should be able to hook you up....
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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i'd suggest going with a CTR exhaust.

inlinefour and passwordjdm have them. both sell around the $300 range
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 01:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jboy08 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'd suggest going with a CTR exhaust.
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i couldn't be happier with my CTR exhaust on my 99 hatch... so quiet, yet larger than stock.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 02:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phillycx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ok, so the questions are:
(1) if i go aftermarket would i need to purchase ex parts (header/cat/exhaust) for my car? Will it bolt up correctly?
(2) if i decided to go oem could i use an ex header/cat/exhaust or si for my car?

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Go aftermarket, and there are many many cat back systems that bolt up to the stock header.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 04:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poison &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Go aftermarket, and there are many many cat back systems that bolt up to the stock header.</TD></TR></TABLE>

True.

The CTR exhaust will NOT be a direct bolt-on affair because your Cx has the exhaust manifold that has the catalytic convertor in it, while the CTR uses the under-car cat like the 99-00 Civic Si and EX does.

I'd just buy an aftermarket stainless exhaust meant for the 96-00 Civic hatchback. This way if you ever wanted to go hybrid, you'd only have to have your exhaust shortened.

In order to run EX stuff you'd need to buy an EX header/exhaust manifold and catalytic convertor and I am not even sure if an Ex exhaust will fit your hatch without modifications. In other words it'll cost more.

BTW:

How many miles does your car have on it?
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 05:49 AM
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Ex parts will fit the CX hatch, but you will have to get a new cat and extend the 2nd O2 sensor. Don't do it, it's not worth it! Good luck
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 06:12 AM
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i personally went with 2 3/4 piping with regular stock muffler... works great
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 08:25 AM
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B18C5-EH2:

I have around 49000 miles on the car now.

I realize the header dilemma, which is part of the problem. I'm looking into getting rid of the current header/cat combo. and going with a new header with a cat underneath the car. If I go this route can I use the CTR exhaust system (header/cat/exhaust), or do I go with a stainless cat back exhaust made for my hatch and ex head/cat?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonek9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ex parts will fit the CX hatch, but you will have to get a new cat and extend the 2nd O2 sensor. Don't do it, it's not worth it! Good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

so, what is worth it? suggestions?

Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated...I'm very new to the exhaust thing. Thanks again for all the responses!! I love H-T!
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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My buddy put that setup on his '97 DX hatch. It was alright, but the best mod he did was an EX tranny. I'd say fix your problem the cheapest way possible and just save your money for something better, like a swap or something.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonek9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My buddy put that setup on his '97 DX hatch. It was alright, but the best mod he did was an EX tranny. I'd say fix your problem the cheapest way possible and just save your money for something better, like a swap or something.</TD></TR></TABLE>

definitely considering cutting my cost as you suggested. however, my concern is that there are other portions of the system that are rusted also and I'd like to just do it all at once.


Also, if I were to go with the CTR exhaust would I have to get a CTR head and cat too? I saw the exhaust for $299-399 and cat for $109, not sure about the header.

Thanks again.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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I'd look at the entire exhaust system to see what actually needs replaced. The CTR stuff you are looking at is used, I wouldn't buy used exhaust parts if I was in your shoes. The CTR header won't fit at all and the cat won't fit unless you modified your current exhuast a lot. I'd just go to a local muffler shop and have them bend you a new exhaust (maybe 2" dia.) from the downpipe back. Shouldn't cost more than $250 depending on the cost of the muffler.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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To answer your question, you can put any exhaust system designed for your hatch that is designed for a 96-00 hatch. Since you will be keeping your stock exhaust manifold, so the secondary 02 sensor won't be an issue.

I'm considering moving over to a CTR exhaust myself, even though it will require some custom work to make it bolt up.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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Thanks a lot for the replies guys...I've taken it all into account. If anybody else has any suggestions i'm definitely open to hearing them. Thanks again.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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bumpity...
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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bump for the night...
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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went ahead and ordered the world sport from titanmotorsports. keep ya'll posted.
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Thanks guys for all your help!! I went with the world sport. Here's a link to some pics https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1043617Enjoy!!
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