did a 5speed swap on std hatch. now car wont crank. what could be wrong?

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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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i dont know whats wrong. battery is 12v, everthing lights up, i turn the key, no crank?????????!!!!!!?!?!?!
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Default Re: did a 5speed swap on std hatch. now car wont crank. what could be wrong? (Mackenzie)

Its the park safety switch that was in place when it was auto. Look under the center console where the bunch of plugs were. You need to jumper two of the plugs. One, if unjumped won't let you pull the key out when you shut the car off, and one won't let it start at all. I don't have my Helm's by me at the moment or I would tell you what wire specifically. If you really can't figure it out though, I can get it for you. You should be able to figure it out though because that is your problem.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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i did a 4speed manual to a 5 speed manual. not auto to manual.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Does it even try to crank...or click atleast? Or does it not do anything? If i were you id double check all the grounds. Id also check the starter hot wire and signal wire.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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no crank, no click, no grind, nothing. some lights on the gauge cluster just get a lil weak from trying to start i guess. yeah ill check the grounds and the starter things tomorrow, i hope thats the prob. the starter is brand new.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 06:44 PM
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Default Re: did a 5speed swap on std hatch. now car wont crank. what could be wrong? (Mackenzie)

make sure the signal wire to the starter is hooked up. and test to see when u turn the key the signal is reaching the starter.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Default Re: did a 5speed swap on std hatch. now car wont crank. what could be wrong? (HighVelocity)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HighVelocity &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make sure the signal wire to the starter is hooked up. and test to see when u turn the key the signal is reaching the starter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how you test it?
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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This may seem like an odd question, but I'd figure I'd ask: Are you keeping the clutch down when you are try to start it?
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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Check the ground wire from the tranny to frame.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bandit74 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This may seem like an odd question, but I'd figure I'd ask: Are you keeping the clutch down when you are try to start it?</TD></TR></TABLE> yes

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fourthgenhatchB17 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check the ground wire from the tranny to frame. </TD></TR></TABLE> wheres that at?
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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Ground wire from tranny to frame....i bet 4thgen is right...

If you have to ask where it is...you are probably missing it It goes from a bracket near where the clutch cable connects to the clutch lever....to a bolt on the frame located under the battery tray.

I have a long, long story about this very problem....took me months to diagnose. Yet it was SUCH AN OBVIOUS PROBLEM!!
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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yeah i think i got it, but didnt connect it i think thats the prob, ill check tomorrow after school.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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yeah ground issue for sure, be clear next time fool! When someone says 5speed swap I am thinkin auto to man., an easy assumption.
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 08:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC000E &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah ground issue for sure, be clear next time fool! When someone says 5speed swap I am thinkin auto to man., an easy assumption.</TD></TR></TABLE> ha haha, my fault mang. yeah im in skoo right now so round 3;30 i be home and check all of my wires. then ill dbl check those. then if it run ill repost and ill be happy
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jisu009 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you have to ask where it is...you are probably missing it

I have a long, long story about this very problem....took me months to diagnose. Yet it was SUCH AN OBVIOUS PROBLEM!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Same comment i was thinkin of!! And same situation here. It took me a few weeks though. But with mine, my ground wire actually just went bad and so did the point on the battery tray where it connected. Previous owner have replaced the original wire with some inferior **** and he also moved the ground point from the frame to the batt. tray...so my problem was disguised in a way. So just because the ground is there, doesnt mean its good. Check with an ohm meter.
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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ok i just got back. so after i eat and change and all that good stuff ill go out. and post the updates. or
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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ok while i was doing the tranny swap i also changed the oil and the spark plugs. just to let you guys know. anyways the ground from the negative to the clutch cable thing was loose, so i tightend that. went to start it, this time.............bam starts up right away, like a new motor n sheit. yup so my 4 to 5 speed swap is done. i thank everybody that helped me out and gave me info.
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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woot! tell us how it drives
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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not yet, ish not street legal yet. need to put the bumpers and taillights back on first.
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