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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:15 PM
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i finally got to taking apart a motor that was boosted for a year with cracked ring lands and here are the pictures...it ran a 13.1@105 at 2200 pounds at 12 psi on a dsm t25 on a d15b7


ringlands and rings are in pieces....

rods looks good but all the bearings are screwed....
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:23 PM
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looks like my pistons after i did that
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:28 PM
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you drove with them like that? if so, wasn't there a tremendous loss of power. i hope mine aren't like that already.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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Default Re: boosting on cracked ringlands =) (ChrisRicketts)

Actually, it ran faster after the ring lands cracked because the boost was turned up because it lost a little bit of power.

Compression numbers were #1-180 #2-100 #3-180 #4-180.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 12:38 AM
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Hehe, I've done this

The bearing damage is a good sign of detonation.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 04:12 AM
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wow!

thats crazy.. those ringlands are toast..
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 04:58 AM
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how much psi where you running when you first cracked them? or do you know?, im about to turbo this motor, gonna run 5-6psi, hopefully mine will last ha
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 06:10 AM
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they got really hot
u can tell the pistons expanded too much , running out of clearance and freaking eating also the pistons skirts away
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 06:39 AM
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Yummy
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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looks good. i've seen much worse though
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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it blew at 10 psi...
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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sweet, nice pictures, what are your plans for the engine
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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those rods are so small it makes the 75mm pistons look big, haha
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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I cracked all 4 of my ringlands on the dyno, then drove home 250 miles with them cracked. Wasn't making too much power at that point and my compression test results were 20-20-25-80 or something like that. Not fun.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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no plans for the engine...i think its junk...already went with ls and deja vu one of the cylinders is at 110 psi =/ haha yea those pistons do look kindof big...that sucks pfieffdog...
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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ahh cracking ringlands-- one of my favorite pastimes.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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I went 12.7 on stock LS with cracked ringlands. All 4 were cracked and on 2 pistons the lower ringland even cracked too. This is all too common after the stock bottom ends see a little detonation. I eventually pulled that motor apart after I cracked a sleeve But I drove the car like that for over a year.....it went through oil like crazy.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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That's the correct attitude

I've racked up over 10K on broken ringlands, only really smokes at high RPM or under boost, but after a few thou smokes a tad at idle. You'd be surprised how little damage there is to the bore from this... the three I've seen torn down would either take a glaze break hone + stock size pistons or .25mm overhone/size. At the very least, the engine is still good for NA duty after an overhone.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackcivic95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much psi where you running when you first cracked them? or do you know?, im about to turbo this motor, gonna run 5-6psi, hopefully mine will last ha</TD></TR></TABLE>

^^Ditto that. Im currently running...or should I say will be running 5 psi later today if all goes well with tuning. On a d16y8- stock internals.

I have a feeling my ringlands or rings (?) could be gone. (the compression is skewed from the initial compression test taken before the first test run last week)(I would have a significant amount of exhaust smoke though wouldnt I?)
But not by much... so ive been told with 180k+ mileage, its not out of the ordinary.
I guess time will tell...

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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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that's what my ringlands looked like on my first z6 turboed setup. Still ran a 14.2 @ 10psi with the compression numbers being 175-180-175-45

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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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on a side note.........i just checked my compression and it's fine. i was afraid i had cracked one of the ringlands because the power just didn't feel there, but i guess i'm just getting used to it. i'm running real rich though.
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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WTF, You guys boost on crack ring like that??? I had crack ring first it was one but i beleive a few more break since it smoke a lot more. I try to boost it one time, and it boost and pull fine but god damn it smoke like crazy. Mad smoke of out my dipstick hole and breather, am i the only one that smoke this bad?
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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I boosted 10 psi on cracked ring lands, it was only as fast as my car was NA - high 14s lol
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StolenTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> am i the only one that smoke this bad?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No sir. One single, solitary broken land on one piston is enough to create a Spy Hunter smoke screen at low boost. That's half the fun of it!
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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weak ring lands
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