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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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Ok I just bought my car pretty recently as a theft recovery cuz I couldn't afford a nice clean title Lude. So IM about to go for a DMV/CHP vin inspection. My question is what vin locations do they check exactly. I checked mine and they all match. There was one on the dash, one in the engine bay near the firewall, one on the body where the door is at(passenger and drivers side), doors, trunk and rear bumper. Now my problem is that my front left and right fenders, front bumper and hood does not have a vin number. However, these parts were replaced and I do have the receipts for them. Also the headlights/taillights and interior stuff was stolen (radio, seats) but those don't have vin numbers so I don't think thats part of the problem right? Im just worried about the front fenders, hood and front bumper not having a vin number. Will this pass the vin inspection.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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just did the same thing last week, my driver side fender was replaced, it was an aftermarket part(no vin). I didn't have a reciept for it but they made an exception, but u need to show reciept for all body parts. As far as the small stuff go, no need to sweat over it, they don't even care.

Also make sure ur front windows aren't tinted, ur airbags work, and there aren't any warning lights on the dash (ABS, Check Engine, Airbag)

That's about it, good luck!
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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AHHHHH shieett my front windows are tinted but, its just barely tinted. No lights are on however the dumb SRS light is on but the airbags were replaced and has a receipt for that as well and I can see it cuz the lil cover under the steering wheel is off. Took it to the shop today but all they did was take the SRS bulb out. So now it doesn't light up at all but I know they didn't fix it. I might go ahead and try to get it inspected soon and hope they don't notice it. If they do I'll just say the dumb shop did it. You think that will work?

Oh yeah and I already tried the paperclip thing to reset the SRS light, but had no luck.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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Well u should put a paperclip in the service connector and read the code on the Aribag light, I'm 99% sure its gonna be code 1 which is that the airbag computer doesn't work. If the airbags were deployed then u need to change the computer too. Now if the airbags weren't deployed then maybe ur not clearing the memory on the right connector. The airbag service connector is in the driver's foot well up next to the fuse box (yellow connector). Try to clear it again. and they check to see if the airbag light goes on, when u start the car the aibag light should come on for 6 seconds then turn off. If it doesn't come on then they know that the bulb is taken out. It all depends on the person checking the VIN, I know in cali they are very thourough, well at least in SoCal, but if they r cool, then they won't even call u on the tint.

Let us know what happens.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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they should definitely look for the srs system. They will look at see that it doesn't light up at startup and then turn off. That will probably cause you some headaches. I had to get a whole new airbag system for mine which was a pain in the ***. Hopefully it is just a code problem like he said, and that will take care of it
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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My uncle recently bought an 03 civic Hybrid, and he just built a very simple timer circuit and set it at 6 seconds. Then he found the wire from the airbag computer that sends the signal to turn the light on in the dash, and put it in the circuit. I think this is the cheapest way to get around airbag problems, but u gotta be a genius. What I was surprised at was that he found the wire from teh computer, built the circuit, and installed it in 2 hours!
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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this the exact circuit that he made, and he also used a small relay on the output http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/LM555.html#5 it uses the infamous LM555 IC
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 11:37 PM
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Damn IM stuck now unless I successfully build that circuit timer thing which is mission impossible for me. I was thinking about some kind of timer like that also but didn't think it would be that complicated. I just read stuff in that link and damn its confusing as hell and I doubt I can even find the wire from the computer. I was thinking of making some kind of hidden switch to turn the light on and off, but I don't know about that. Most likely wont attempt it.

The person I got the car from told me that the airbags were replaced, it has receipts and cost like 1,000 something. In the steering wheel I can see the airbag unit when the cover is taken off. Not the cover in middle front part of the steering wheel but the little small cover under the steering wheel. Its plugged in using some yellow plugs and the airbag unit looks like its in some white plastic housing or something. I think IM just gonna contact the seller and tell him that the shop who repaired this did not do it right.

Yo salvageland thanks for the link but which picture of those circuits is the one your unlce made?
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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the last schematic on this pic, i can adjust the timer from 1 to 120 seconds by putting different valued resistor

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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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Well I called the guy back and said he is contacting the people who worked on the car. I checked it out myself and I can see new airbag units by taking the little cover off under the steering wheel for the drivers side unit, and looking up the glove compartment for the passenger one. I didn't want to touch anything tho cuz the airbags could possibly blow up in my face. I don't know when it'll get fixed and how long it'll take so I want to try and make that timer thing your talking about.

Ok about that pic you just posted, I see your pointing out the last part of the pic and I kind of get it but it's confusing in a way. I see it has a trigger but can't you just leave the trigger out cuz the whole thing wont have any power until you turn the key on anyways...meaning that turning the key to the on position would be the trigger itself? Also, I see a positive but no negative or is it just not labeled...so this would be the power source and is where the bulb was plugged into in the first place? Also, IM guessing the output is for the bulb. Just got a few more questions: 1. whats that part called with the little lines going diagonally across it. 2.whats that part called where the line is broken and has a 1uf sign next to it.

K thanks a lot for any help cuz I just asked hella questions.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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Ur right, u don't need the trigger, u can just get an always on 12V from the fusebox,

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1- the part with the diagonal lines are resistors, for the 1mega ohm resistor, my uncle put and adjustable one that has a little dial on top of it so that he could adjust the timer.

2 - the 1 uf part is a Polorized capacitor (has distinct positive and negative side) and the 0.1uf is a non-polarized capacitor (doesn't have positive or negative side)
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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Thanks, ok I get all the parts required now and IM sure I can make it. The only problem is IM not sure how to connect it to the car (power source, how it connects to the bulb and how it is triggered If I just use an always on 12v from the fuse box). Also about the adjustable resistor, what should I look for when getting it...adjustable from what range of numbers?
You said "Ur right, u don't need the trigger, u can just get an always on 12v from the fuse box", what do you mean? Can't I just use the power source the bulb was plugged into. That way, when you turn he key on, the SRS light that would have stayed on before this modification, would mean that the bulb is getting power now. But instead the circuit board is gonna be hooked up to it and so it gets powered now, so that triggers/powers this whole timer circuit thing. Then I can use that adjustable resistor unit to control how long it stays on. Sounds good?
However, since you suggest using an always on 12v supply from the fuse box, then which one should I use and what would then be the trigger since this power source is always on? This sounds better because the power the bulb gets from the cluster might not be 12v and the whole circuit timer thing might not work or calculate properly?
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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well, my uncle used the trigger from the cigarette lighter, because the cigarette lighter is activated only when the key is in the ON position, and that when the light should turn on for 6 seconds. As for finding the pinout, its different for all the cars so u will need a Helm's manual. The resistor range u have to find by plugging in the (time on= 1.1 x the 1 meg resistor) if u put 5 mega ohm resistor, it'll be on for 5.5 seconds; get an adjustable resistor that can go all the way up to 10Meg, or find the exact ohm of the resistor and get that resistor.
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