Clifford Intelliguard 8000 immobilizer problem- help!!
I have a Clifford Intelliguard 8000 and I'm having some serious problems with it. The car just stalls out in the middle of driving!! The last time I took it out, it did this repeatedly, and then failed to start anymore. I got stranded and I had to call a shop and have the alarm taken out so I could get home!
My friend who also has a 7000 is havign the same problem, as well. The installer is the same for both of us (friend). My friend doesn't know what to do, and could only suggest switching to a different alarm system. Can anyone offer me some insight to this..
My friend who also has a 7000 is havign the same problem, as well. The installer is the same for both of us (friend). My friend doesn't know what to do, and could only suggest switching to a different alarm system. Can anyone offer me some insight to this..
Are you having problems with the alarm not being in your car anymore? What kinda car is it? how was it installed (soldered connections? or simply taped connects?) have you tried looking at the wiring to see if it was hooked up correctly? Are you some how putting it in Black Jax mode? Have you tried driving around with the car in valet mode? Have you ask the company that installed it to hook it up to Cliffnet to see if the brain is hooped?
I haven't driven the car much since the alarm has been taken out, but no I haven't had any problems.
I have an integra.
The connections were not soldered, I think they were crimped. I don't know much about electronics so I can't really say if he did anything wrong, but the guy who took my alarm out told me it was a good installation.
No I don't think blackjax was enabled, but I've never used it so I don't know.
When the car wouldn't start I tried putting it in valet mode but it didn't help.
My friend installed it, but since I had the problem he hasn't had a chance to come over and look at it yet.
I'm kinda weary about putting the Clifford back in because I've had problems in the past. A few months ago the car wouldn't start for my brother. It was determined that the alarm was draining the battery. So my friend who installed it sent it back and got another brain. It's kinda scary driving around knowing that the car could just shut down at any time. =/
I have an integra.
The connections were not soldered, I think they were crimped. I don't know much about electronics so I can't really say if he did anything wrong, but the guy who took my alarm out told me it was a good installation.
No I don't think blackjax was enabled, but I've never used it so I don't know.
When the car wouldn't start I tried putting it in valet mode but it didn't help.
My friend installed it, but since I had the problem he hasn't had a chance to come over and look at it yet.
I'm kinda weary about putting the Clifford back in because I've had problems in the past. A few months ago the car wouldn't start for my brother. It was determined that the alarm was draining the battery. So my friend who installed it sent it back and got another brain. It's kinda scary driving around knowing that the car could just shut down at any time. =/
If the brain is draining the battery then the install wasn't done properly. What experience does your friend have in installing clifford products? To me I think he screwed up the install on the items? To have a clifford Intelliguard 7000 and 8000 having the same problems with both being installed by the same person to me screams out he screwed it up. The chances of both brains having the same problem is very slim to none.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sopiwnykg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the brain is draining the battery then the install wasn't done properly. What experience does your friend have in installing clifford products? To me I think he screwed up the install on the items? To have a clifford Intelliguard 7000 and 8000 having the same problems with both being installed by the same person to me screams out he screwed it up. The chances of both brains having the same problem is very slim to none.</TD></TR></TABLE>Dito that.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nuport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I haven't driven the car much since the alarm has been taken out, but no I haven't had any problems.
I have an integra.
The connections were not soldered, I think they were crimped. I don't know much about electronics so I can't really say if he did anything wrong, but the guy who took my alarm out told me it was a good installation.
No I don't think blackjax was enabled, but I've never used it so I don't know.
When the car wouldn't start I tried putting it in valet mode but it didn't help.
My friend installed it, but since I had the problem he hasn't had a chance to come over and look at it yet.
I'm kinda weary about putting the Clifford back in because I've had problems in the past. A few months ago the car wouldn't start for my brother. It was determined that the alarm was draining the battery. So my friend who installed it sent it back and got another brain. It's kinda scary driving around knowing that the car could just shut down at any time. =/
</TD></TR></TABLE>Your friend that installed the alarms in the cars,[the one that hadn't had a chance to look at it yet] he shouldn't quit his day job, and if installing is his day job he should quit.
When installing an alarm ALL connections need to be soldered, if installing relays,[for starter cut or ign. kill ] they must be made serviceable so you can and see if the relay has failed when you run into a problem, like a bad relay on the ign. wire in your car,[and your brothers] that said, the problems you and your brother are having is the install, because , you can't troubleshoot the system if you can't eliminate a possible problem,[ the wireing and how it was done] If the install had been done properly you would have been able to swap out a relay on the ign. line to see if that was what was keeping the car from starting and stalling, or the one on the starter line ,[if it wouldn't turn over] "serviceble" NOT hanging in a WAD under the dash. and if relays were good and the install was done properly, all that is left is the alarms CPU [brain] The install of the alarm should be done so you can check to see what is wrong and fix it or bypass it so you can be on your way,[to fix later] in no more then 30 min. if not, one day you will be on a hot date the car will stall, you will not be able to get it started you will have to get a towtruck.........
you have been there. the point I am trying to make is, like sopiwnykg said
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sopiwnykg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. The chances of both brains having the same problem is very slim to none.</TD></TR></TABLE> the installs are probably the problem, but if not done properly there is no way to tell for sure.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nuport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I haven't driven the car much since the alarm has been taken out, but no I haven't had any problems.
I have an integra.
The connections were not soldered, I think they were crimped. I don't know much about electronics so I can't really say if he did anything wrong, but the guy who took my alarm out told me it was a good installation.
No I don't think blackjax was enabled, but I've never used it so I don't know.
When the car wouldn't start I tried putting it in valet mode but it didn't help.
My friend installed it, but since I had the problem he hasn't had a chance to come over and look at it yet.
I'm kinda weary about putting the Clifford back in because I've had problems in the past. A few months ago the car wouldn't start for my brother. It was determined that the alarm was draining the battery. So my friend who installed it sent it back and got another brain. It's kinda scary driving around knowing that the car could just shut down at any time. =/
</TD></TR></TABLE>Your friend that installed the alarms in the cars,[the one that hadn't had a chance to look at it yet] he shouldn't quit his day job, and if installing is his day job he should quit.
When installing an alarm ALL connections need to be soldered, if installing relays,[for starter cut or ign. kill ] they must be made serviceable so you can and see if the relay has failed when you run into a problem, like a bad relay on the ign. wire in your car,[and your brothers] that said, the problems you and your brother are having is the install, because , you can't troubleshoot the system if you can't eliminate a possible problem,[ the wireing and how it was done] If the install had been done properly you would have been able to swap out a relay on the ign. line to see if that was what was keeping the car from starting and stalling, or the one on the starter line ,[if it wouldn't turn over] "serviceble" NOT hanging in a WAD under the dash. and if relays were good and the install was done properly, all that is left is the alarms CPU [brain] The install of the alarm should be done so you can check to see what is wrong and fix it or bypass it so you can be on your way,[to fix later] in no more then 30 min. if not, one day you will be on a hot date the car will stall, you will not be able to get it started you will have to get a towtruck.........
you have been there. the point I am trying to make is, like sopiwnykg said <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sopiwnykg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. The chances of both brains having the same problem is very slim to none.</TD></TR></TABLE> the installs are probably the problem, but if not done properly there is no way to tell for sure.
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The guy who installed the alarm works at a shop and has been doing it for a while(Not that I'm defending him) I really don't know much about car electronics so I can't comment on the execution of his installation. However, I can tell you that all the other work he did on my car (custom speaker install, amps, etc) and the work he's done on my friend's cars is excellent.
I'm just worried about what to do at this point because I don't want to have this happen to me again- If I was on the highway when the damn thing shut down on me I would have been fucked!!
That being said, I am contemplating taking his advice and going with a different alarm. My other option would be to go to an authorized Clifford dealer and having them reinstall it for me. <shrug>
I'm just worried about what to do at this point because I don't want to have this happen to me again- If I was on the highway when the damn thing shut down on me I would have been fucked!!
That being said, I am contemplating taking his advice and going with a different alarm. My other option would be to go to an authorized Clifford dealer and having them reinstall it for me. <shrug>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nuport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The guy who installed the alarm works at a shop and has been doing it for a while(Not that I'm defending him) I really don't know much about car electronics so I can't comment on the execution of his installation. However, I can tell you that all the other work he did on my car (custom speaker install, amps, etc) and the work he's done on my friend's cars is excellent.
I'm just worried about what to do at this point because I don't want to have this happen to me again- If I was on the highway when the damn thing shut down on me I would have been fucked!!
That being said, I am contemplating taking his advice and going with a different alarm. My other option would be to go to an authorized Clifford dealer and having them reinstall it for me. <shrug>
</TD></TR></TABLE> As I said the install may not have been the problem, an alarm install without soldered connections is not a proper install whan you cut a wire like the ign. wire and install a relay in that line the wires have to be soldered because at some point the connection can fail, if soldered it can't, take your own advice
[QUOTE=nuport. My other option would be to go to an authorized Clifford dealer and having them reinstall it for me. <shrug>
[/QUOTE] Ask any place you take it,
1-Will you solder all the connections?
2-will you remove all unused alarm wires?
3-Will it be serviceable?
4-will the alarm and its wiring be hidden well?
if they say yes to all 4 have them do it, if not, move on to another shop.
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I'm just worried about what to do at this point because I don't want to have this happen to me again- If I was on the highway when the damn thing shut down on me I would have been fucked!!
That being said, I am contemplating taking his advice and going with a different alarm. My other option would be to go to an authorized Clifford dealer and having them reinstall it for me. <shrug>
</TD></TR></TABLE> As I said the install may not have been the problem, an alarm install without soldered connections is not a proper install whan you cut a wire like the ign. wire and install a relay in that line the wires have to be soldered because at some point the connection can fail, if soldered it can't, take your own advice
[QUOTE=nuport. My other option would be to go to an authorized Clifford dealer and having them reinstall it for me. <shrug>
[/QUOTE] Ask any place you take it,
1-Will you solder all the connections?
2-will you remove all unused alarm wires?
3-Will it be serviceable?
4-will the alarm and its wiring be hidden well?
if they say yes to all 4 have them do it, if not, move on to another shop.
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