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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 12:24 PM
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im interested in swapping a spoon 2.0 stoked b18c engine into a ek but i have heard these crate engines have problems--burning the oil. anyone have any experiences with this engine or any other spoon crate engine?

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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 12:26 PM
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Discontinued, The engine wasnt meant for too high of a rev only about 7900. Also with the small piston skirt area it wasnt really designed for street use.
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 12:28 PM
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You could build a better engine for that kind of money
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 12:40 PM
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Discontinued, The engine wasnt meant for too high of a rev only about 7900. Also with the small piston skirt area it wasnt really designed for street use.
discontinued...hummm
what kind of numbers was the 2.0 b18c putting down?

do they still have the b18c 200hp/8200 rpm and b18c (high compression) 210/8400 rpm motors?

for daily use would a jspec b18c be better than the spoons? (reliability and for the money)
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 01:00 PM
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just curious bishop, but were are you going to get ur engine from
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 01:11 PM
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if i go spoon
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 01:49 PM
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I wouldn't reccomend those for street use...compression is way to high for Stateside use...revs to like 11,000rpms and makes about 200hp at the wheels
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 01:57 PM
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I wouldn't reccomend those for street use...compression is way to high for Stateside use...revs to like 11,000rpms and makes about 200hp at the wheels
i know the spoon b16b revs to 11k but i think the b18c revs to 8200 and makes 200hp?

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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 02:49 PM
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I prefer JUN engines over Spoon...

Paul got his JUN crate motor to run 235 HP at the wheels...

Check it out at www.clubvtec.com


im interested in swapping a spoon 2.0 stoked b18c engine into a ek but i have heard these crate engines have problems--burning the oil. anyone have any experiences with this engine or any other spoon crate engine?
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 02:59 PM
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is there a dyno of that - was it LS/VTEC or CRVtec or something - I'd like to see that dyno if its just a B18c

BTW - the link doesn't work


[Modified by 2000-4DRGSR, 4:02 PM 12/16/2001]
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 04:19 PM
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Almost all JDM 2.0 liter engines use the 94mm F3 crankshaft. The long stroke engines do not have a long lifespan and F3 regulations do not all the engines to rev over 8500rpm. If you want a 2.0 liter engine get one that is resleeved to 84.5mm or use a B20 block that has been massaged for Hi rpm usage.

The following companies have 2.0 liter crate motors: (I'll add more later)

Spoon ...94mm crank
Jun ....94 mm crank but a resleeved 84 mm motor can be ordered
Honda Twin 94mm crank
SS Works ... they'll make anything that you want..

JDM engine builders use the 94mm crank because it is cheaper than resleeving. The sleeves alone cost $1500 and the installation is another $250~$500.
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 04:25 PM
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forget about the Spoon 2.0, it is not a stable and reliable engine. Get the Feel's B20TC
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 05:17 PM
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If u want a high powered n/a motor..my experience from this board says that u should go with a B18C5...resleeve it to 84.5mm, throw in some 12:1 + cr pistons, JUN III's or Toda C's, upgrade the Valvetrain, do some headwork, knife-edge the crank, and boom..uve got ur self a 220hp+ motor
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 05:21 PM
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knife-edging the crank isn't necessary
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 01:24 PM
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You have to do all that crap for 220whp??
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 01:50 PM
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Yes, but - with 220whp and the right combo of grip/track/driver could launch you into the high 12's.
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 10:23 PM
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If u want a high powered n/a motor..my experience from this board says that u should go with a B18C5...resleeve it to 84.5mm, throw in some 12:1 + cr pistons, JUN III's or Toda C's, upgrade the Valvetrain, do some headwork, knife-edge the crank, and boom..uve got ur self a 220hp+ motor
thanks...

so what makes the spoon b18c engine so special? what does it have that your stock b18C5 engine doesnt have?
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 11:54 PM
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The spoon engine is basically jdm engine which ends up giving you .5 of compression over the usdm motor, but also what spoon does is balance the motor. To me that is very important. especially in high reving applications. Balancing will create more power because the motor will run smoother and rev faster.
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 06:48 PM
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Hey Spoon civic i have a 96 hatch w/ b18c5 and i am planning to turbo this winter. What is your setup and what do you run 1/4 mile?

Chris
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