one quick ?....I just put in tokico illumina-r coilovers in my accord. I have it lowered about 1 3/4 inches in the front. My problem is that no matter what stiffness setting i have it on...(now on 5..hardest), it seems that my upper control arms hit the upper part of my wheel well inside when i hit bigger bumps and potholes. I also put in ingalls ball joint camber kit which is a little bigger than stock. But does anybody else have this problem???

 

well you have a couple of options. You could raise the car up. you could take the adjustable ball joints off. you could cut your wheel well to make clearance for the ball joints.

 

will cutting my wheel well affect the structure of the car? I am planning on doing some auto-x with it, so will this in the long run be ok for it?

 

are you talking about the splash guard???...cutting that wont do anything but increase chance or hydrolocking if you have a CAI....migh i suggest getting some 15" wheels instead??

 

get these http://www.ingallseng.com/parts/35720.html

 

What are you supposed to use to lubricate polyurethane bushings?

 

I already have energy suspension polyeurothane bushings and ingalls ball joint camber kits....those camber kits that you guys show are basically the same thing the ball joint is doing. My tire size is not the problem either, it's the top of my upper control arm hitting the wheel well, not the plastic, but the very top of the well. I don't know whether to trim right where the control hits or to raise the car up 1/2 inch or so, the part that gets me is that the car isn't even that low! To answer your ? about what grease to use, when my kit came in, they gave me a few packets of some thick/clear lubricant to put on the bushings, not sure what it's made from.

 

I had the same problem when I installed my camber kit. What I did was file down the lip of my control arm near the ball joint. if you look closely that is the part that is hitting. It'll eventually ruin your ball joint if you allow it to keep bottoming out. Good luck.

 

Which camber kit did you get??? Mine are the ball joint type, and the whole ball joint assembly is somewhat bigger than stock. So i think it's the head of the nut on the ball joint thats hitting my wheel well.

 

I don't have the ball joint type camber kit. So I guess it could be the head of the nut like you said.

 

i'm think maybe i could possibly drill...oh say a 3/4 inch hole in my well to allow for the head of the nut...ey??

 

So you think that it might be the very end of my control arm hitting? I'm not 100% sure now since you told me this, that sounds def. like a possibility though.

 

bump...

 

DO NOT MODIFY YOUR FRAME for the dumb camber kit. This has been an age old problem with the Honda Accord. The front camber kits can not be adjust must more then 1 degree w/o it getting in the way of the frame. Your best bet is to just deal with a little bit of negative camberm. Either 1 degree correction or no kit. The energy suspension bushings will also bring some alighment back.

I modified the wheel wells on my old car and i hated the car after that. Now I also have4 spare upper arms. WHAT A WRONG MOVE!

 

you shouldn't have problem with that mild drop

is your uca hitting the wheel well everytime? or it only slam together during braking or going into parking lots?

if so, check the tie rods.

5th gen accord can be lower as much as 3.5-4 inch without clearance problem

 

Well for me it only makes contact over hard bumps...I can usually avoid it with some prudent driving techniques. I'd rather not trim the end of the control arm if I don't have to.

 

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Its a honda it doesn have a frame. It does however have a uni-body. Which you wouldnt touch anyway.

 

yea, this is touching the inside of the fenderwell, which is not part of the frame or unibody.

anyway, i have an ingalls style camber kit, and had that problem, after about 2 months of it hitting the inside of the wheel wel, it just wore down the upper control arm just a tad, and now it doesn't hit at all.

and whoever said its damaging the ball joint by bottoming out....?? whats that supposed to mean?

 

The camber kit I have is ingalls and it is a ball joint camber kit. Since the ball joint is somewhat larger than the previous one (stock)...the Top of the ball joint hits the very top of my WHEEL WELL. It only does it when the car hits something significantly large. My control arms are not hitting nothing, I have brand new polyeurothane bushings and that definately stiffened everything up. So the only thing that is hitting is the top of my BALL JOINT!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rudeman85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> So the only thing that is hitting is the top of my BALL JOINT!
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No ****? Do you really think you are the only person that this has ever happened to? Your only answers are to either cut out your wheel well to allow clearance for you ball joint. Or to raise your car up which would also allow clearance.

&lt;--- my upper control arms (ball joint and all) come through my hood.

 

Yeah, i know, i was just replying to top end's remark on cutting my "frame". I'm gonna do that soon, cut out about an 1 1/2" hole right where the ball joint is. Do you guys think it might be a good idea to maybe stiffen it with some scrap alluminum i have? Maybe weld a frame like support raised up over the hole. How much clearance do you think there is b/w the wheel well and hood?

 

You could cap it. That would appearance wise look nice. As far as welding up something to keep the stiffness, eh i honestly, dont know since you are planning on potentiall auto X'ing, what you should do.

 

you can cut a piece of the plastic inner fender lining right above the camber kit and take a plier and bend back the metal lip that the camber kit is banging on. i did this, no cutting of the frame required and works well.

heres a picture i saved from someones site..