Im curently looking to buy an EG hatch cause the jetta im racing at Auto-X is just too slow and heavy lol

so i was thinking of a swap idea for it.

What do you guys think of a B20 powerd EG with just IHE and few mods also full suspension?

ideas?
concerns?

 

Do you know what class you want to be in yet?

Do you know the rules for that particular class?

Do you have a particular budget in mind yet?

Do you just plan on competing locally, or are divisionals and nationals in your future?

How is your driving? Quite often, spending more time behind the wheel of that Jetta and getting lots and lots of seat time could be the best thing for you.

 

just stay with the d16. look at EP results from nationals. ej1 finished second. or, run in sts with the d16. if a dx run in fsp. will be good car in each class. the money saved on the swap will make the car much faster when you get a good suspenion. and i'm not talking about blingy jdm coilovers either.

 

Become a better driver before you start swapping

their a few Autocross cars that already have been built that have one nationals that would be cheaper then swapping, plus you know that it would be your fault not the cars if you weren't fast

 

My head hurts.

Methinks it is time for another sticky entitled:

"Before you build or buy ANYTHING - Look here!"

 

this should help and another one for good messure

 

ive been autocrossing this whole year, only missed a couple of events

maybe i didnt write out my first post well enough

my plan..

drive car in stock class for a year, learn how car works
swap in B20 go into SM next year (with suspension so I dont get totaly ownen)
drive car and learn

is that better????

now back to the question at hand

B20 good idea for autocross???????????????????

 

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Depends, if you just want to have fun, have a fun street car, or just build for ufn then do whatever you want with the car.

If you want to be competitive, then an Si hatch in STS or a DX hatch in FSP would both be good choices.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accordianex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive been autocrossing this whole year, only missed a couple of events

maybe i didnt write out my first post well enough

my plan..

drive car in stock class for a year, learn how car works
swap in B20 go into SM next year (with suspension so I dont get totaly ownen)
drive car and learn

is that better????

now back to the question at hand

B20 good idea for autocross???????????????????</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not trying to dissuade you but the most economical and ego saving idea would be build the car to STS specs run it there for a year or so with the D motor and get the handling dialed in...once you get it the way you like and are comfortable then swap the B20 with a GSR tranny for SM the following year.

Once in SM with a B20 you could do FI with a quick spool turbo or super charger. There are plenty of topics discussing this idea. One is right at the top of the forum.

 

i have that set up.. B20Z with a LS trans.. I/H/E Omni Power coilovers(12/10k) rear seats removed, carpet/tar are gone. and some other mods.
i personally like it alot. this is my first season but i feel the B20 helps in tight spots.. you know "in slow out fast" ive competed 4 events in my region this season and ive gotten second in the last two events and 1st on the noob day. that was before the full coilover set up, i had just lowering springs. im loosing to a suby 2.5rs turbo.. but hes a really good driver as well.

 

First off all the only way you are assured of doing good is by driving better. With that said a B20 powered hatch should be capable of being competive in class and overall on the local level in Sm. You will need in this order of importantence decent coilover with high springs rates, shocks that can handle those springs, 8 inch wide wheels with 225s tires, and a LSD. Dont waste the money on air intakes or bling at first get those parts take all the wieght you can ,get the cr corner wighted and aligned and you will have very fun a fast SM civic.

 

Thank you for the first usefull reply :tup:

 

I happen to have just the hatch for sale go ahead and take a look you know you want to.

later
matt

 

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right ...well what do national scca champions and forum moderators know about autocrossing...sorry to waste your time. good luck your gonna need it.

 

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To be fair, he didn't ask 'how should I build an EFG to win nationals?' He wants to know if that's a good combination. There is a local guy here with that setup, and he kicks major *** in both Solo 1 and Solo 2, so yeah, it's a good platform. Make sure you get an LSD tranny though...

Tom

 

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To be fair, he didn't ask 'how should I build an EFG to win nationals?' He wants to know if that's a good combination. There is a local guy here with that setup, and he kicks major *** in both Solo 1 and Solo 2, so yeah, it's a good platform. Make sure you get an LSD tranny though...

Tom</TD></TR></TABLE>

And that's not the advice given. We gave him advice on not only how to save money but also to go about it in a logical way...offering our advice which he asked for and then discredited alot of folks with ALOT of autocrossing experience.

I don't ever remember seeing "this is the formula for nationals" anywhere

 

its not just that, you guys were ******** doing it.

you gave an impression like

oh god, another stupid noob trying to build a fast autox car without knowing anything

well i do


and I know that you have to drive the car first and learn it

i didnt say i was doing the swap tomarrow


but since you are all knowing then you already knew that.


but back to the matter at hand

funds are not as good as I hoped so now im forced to go with a CRX set up, you think a B20 in that would still be affective? or too much wieght for it?

 

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Maybe because we've seen a thousand posts and people at events that are total novices but keep throwing money at cars but keep getting slower, and then start asking for advice, after ignoring all previous advice about what they've done.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you gave an impression like

oh god, another stupid noob trying to build a fast autox car without knowing anything

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Re-read your first post.

You have no plan, no details, no experience, no goals, and vauge description like "IHE" and "full suspension".

After you clarified it you got some damn good responses. No one is going to hold your hand, and building a car like that can quickly run up over $10-$15,000 - something that no one is going to recommend you dive two feet into if you're just starting out.

Your flippant response of

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Doesnt make you all that endearing either.

Maybe you think I'm an ******* too? I dont really care, but if you come across with a poor attitude, or acting like you dont know what you're talking about, or have no plan or goal other than to build some high schooler's wet dream of an 5.0L mustang smoking uber-hatch, then that response is pretty much standard.

Take it for what you will.

 

oh and after a further reading,

a B20 CRX would be the suck

so im back to the drawing board

 

We are currently building a Dx hatch for FSP...
http://www.teamsoloracer.com/p...r.php

We only did a few mods to it this year, but next year its going to get quite a few things done to it. As many have stated, STS would be a good place to start with an Si. The Dx seems to be a great car for FSP. I can tell its going to be a money pit class so we are probably going to slowly develop the car over one or two seasons. Should be fun.

 

Every class that has an "S" in its name is a money pit class.

God help you if it doesn't have an "S."

 

was that your pristine red EG at beaverun last weekend?

 

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Yup. That was my red Civic in FSP. Car needs lots of development time... can't wait until next year for the wide rubber and more suspension goodies. BeaveRun is sweet. Thats the first time I made it out there this year. You Steel Cities guys are lucky