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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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i have heard people say that NGK sparkplugs come pre-gapped, and thats what they'll tell you if you buy some at a parts store. i just bought 4 BRK6E-11 (V-Power for 99-00 Si). Now if you look at NGK's web page for this application it says the gap should be .052" - I used feeler gauges and all 4 plugs were at .044" . Now on the page for this application (http://www.ngk.com/results_app.asp?AAIA=1363025) roll over the box for BRK6E-11 and look at the info on the left. It says .044" which leads me to believe thats what they come at from the factory.

Clif's Notes: NGK plugs do not come pre-gapped and must be gapped before installation for best performance.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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good find
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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Default Re: definitive - ngk plugs NOT pregapped (909edge)

I didn't know that.

I always pre-gap no matter what. Just incase.

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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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ya, the last batch i bought were all gapped different and gapped too small
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TwoPointZero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I always pre-gap no matter what. Just incase.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Same here, just to be sure
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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I've always had to gap mine.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Default Re: definitive - ngk plugs NOT pregapped (hondasport2000)

BRK6E-11

Those last two numbers stand for 1.1mm which is 0.44" gap. They do come preggaped sometimes they get moved a little bit so I always check them.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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well i think NGK themselves say not to use feeler gauges to check gap. I am not sure on this, but i swore that most spark plug companies want people to use the pull through rod type to check gap. Just my .02. Not totally sure here, but i am throwing it out for discussion
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by snoochtodanooch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i think NGK themselves say not to use feeler gauges to check gap. I am not sure on this, but i swore that most spark plug companies want people to use the pull through rod type to check gap. Just my .02. Not totally sure here, but i am throwing it out for discussion</TD></TR></TABLE>

any thoughts on why? feeler gages should be accurate to around + or - .001" if you use them correctly...
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 05:20 AM
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Default Re: definitive - ngk plugs NOT pregapped (909edge)

I don't get why people would think they come pregapped anyway, its not like a spark plug has only one application. I got some NGK plats yesterday and none of them were gapped at the .052 I needed. They were all gapped at ..050. At least it was consistent though.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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I've had 4 sets on a D series Civic, they were all gapped perfectly. Same thing on the Corolla I owned previously. I'm just about ready to stop checking the gap at all.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TwoPointZero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I always pre-gap no matter what. Just incase.

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yeap me too. takes a couple mins and is totally worth it.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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Default Re: definitive - ngk plugs NOT pregapped (EK22snatch)

do they ngk's that come from honda come pre-gapped for each application?
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 909edge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have heard people say that NGK sparkplugs come pre-gapped, and thats what they'll tell you if you buy some at a parts store. i just bought 4 BRK6E-11 (V-Power for 99-00 Si). Now if you look at NGK's web page for this application it says the gap should be .052" - I used feeler gauges and all 4 plugs were at .044" . Now on the page for this application (http://www.ngk.com/results_app.asp?AAIA=1363025) roll over the box for BRK6E-11 and look at the info on the left. It says .044" which leads me to believe thats what they come at from the factory.

Clif's Notes: NGK plugs do not come pre-gapped and must be gapped before installation for best performance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Like ABK said, the 11 at the end = 1.1mm. NGK recommends ZFR5F-11 plugs for my Y7 and they say the gap should be .044 (1.1mm) So does the sticker on my hood. On your car they recommend BKR6E-11 set to .052", this means you have to gap them from .044" (1.1mm) to .052"

Looks like they are pre-gapped to me, but just not gapped to what your specs are. Regardless, I've never just dropped in plugs w/o checking gap. You never know unless you check.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TwoPointZero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I always pre-gap no matter what. Just incase.

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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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Default Re: definitive - ngk plugs NOT pregapped (ABK)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BRK6E-11

Those last two numbers stand for 1.1mm which is 0.44" gap. They do come preggaped sometimes they get moved a little bit so I always check them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

^^
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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Default Re: definitive - ngk plugs NOT pregapped (AzSi22)

i baught some ngk plugs, i also heard they came pre-gapped but i checked them out and they were all .44.......... but always check them
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