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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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Default Security measure theory... very extreme please hypothosize with me.

I just had my car broken into again recently and now I am going to be on my third ignition. I was wondering if there would be any possible way to actually RELOCATE the actual ignition while keeping the wheel locking feature? I know its a pretty tricky question and is going to involve a lot of re wiring.

But I want to know because im thinking of moving the part where I insert my keys down to where my cupholders are and welding a little section to the chassis that will basically require tools to take the ignition out?
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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Not unless you can find an aftermarket, solenoid operated steering wheel column lock, which I've never heard of. The part that you stick your key into (key cylinder) has the actual steering column lock in it and turning the key mechanically disengages the lock, so if you relocate that, you lose your column lock.
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 12:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kchungb17a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The part that you stick your key into (key cylinder) has the actual steering column lock in it and turning the key mechanically disengages the lock, so if you relocate that, you lose your column lock. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Although it would be quite a pain to do but what about having a dummy ignition which its purpose is only to serve as a lock and relocating the actual ignition to another part of the car. Which would mean it would require two keys to run the car. Fun Fun Fun
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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my plan is to relocate the ignition switch to the side of the centre console.. u stick the key in. unlock the wheel then remove it and start the car.. or

disable your key start and then have a button hidden under the seat for start..
which means u MUST turnt he key but that will not start the car..
then when they have a screw driver in there and it wont start.. oh no

hehe
oh and it gives mad mod points
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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first of all, what kind of car do you have?
second, it would be pretty simple to do an ignition relocation. Just undo the ignition switch(behind the keycylinder) from your primary key cylinder (the one on your steering wheel that locks it in place) and attaching it to the new one. this will still allow you to lock your steering wheel. extend all of the ignition,starter,secondary ignition(if you have one), power wire, etc to the new location of the secondary ignition key cylinder. Only drawback to this would be now you have two keys to start the car. One to unlock the steering lock and the second one to start the car. I would rather have nice alarm system with internal motion detector with GPS and full coverage than go through all that trouble. but either way, good luck.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 03:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first of all, what kind of car do you have?</TD></TR></TABLE>
One that thieves like... 99 read here at why im thinking about this.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=999100

as far as the idea above goes thats all fine and dandy but the problem with that is one you cant remove the key from the steering lock or it activates the lock.

A start button would be ideal but with stripped interior and the only plate to hide it is on the dash somewhere it would be pretty pointless.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">second, it would be pretty simple to do an ignition relocation. Just undo the ignition switch(behind the keycylinder) from your primary key cylinder (the one on your steering wheel that locks it in place) and attaching it to the new one. this will still allow you to lock your steering wheel. extend all of the ignition,starter,secondary ignition(if you have one), power wire, etc to the new location of the secondary ignition key cylinder. Only drawback to this would be now you have two keys to start the car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have a better solution, removable steering wheel. A security measure is a trade for a safety measure.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would rather have nice alarm system with internal motion detector with GPS and full coverage than go through all that trouble. but either way, good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>

have a lo jack, hence why I still have the car after its first theft attempt.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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I know about the key thing. Thats why i said you would need two keys to start your car. One to keep in the primary to start it, and one for the steering lock. Personally i think you're taking it to the extreme.

hehe, are you sure its lojack and not a major screw up by some geniuses?
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 02:58 AM
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no.

A smart thief would leave the car somewhere for a day where there isnt a lot of cops driving through and is usually a quiet area.

The cops found the car 20 minutes after it initially dissapeared.

I am just hypothesising different methods of extreme security lol.
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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just make switch hiddin under the seat that will kill power to the ecu, no ecu power no start!
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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if I dont have the ecu in the car (from now on of course) that kinda kills the point of that but it does make sense to have if the thief has an extra ecu on hand.... ill make sure to fab that up somehow as well.

Should be interesting.
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