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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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the coilover



FRONT SHOCKS



REAR SHOCKS


ok so out of all the parts/pieces that comes with the koni yellow shocks, what parts/pieces doesnt need to be used with the ground control coilovers?

as for the parts that will be used, in what order do they go in? do i follow the original wtf koni instructions, then just put the sleeves over the shocks? what are those rubber pieces that came with the g/c used for? it doesnt metion anything about it in any diagram.

please someone who has the same setup as me, please please chime in.
diagram of how the whole thing goes together will be greatly appreciated.

thanks!
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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im gona say you didn't get GC's for koni's.

hold on some one will tell you in a second

woops just found out you weren't supposed to get the orings.


help is on its way
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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i guess its a mistake on thier part. the sleeves are a tight fit where 2 sleeves go on the front exclusively and the other 2 on the rear. i had to try all fits because i got equal length springs.

they did mark that the front is 500llbs and the rear 400lbs but i wanted the other way around. good thing i ordered them equal lengths right so i can interchange the springs. thats ok right? while at the same time the sleeves cant?
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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Here, and just follow the instructions:







Any other Q's just ask.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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the guy below you explained it right, you got everything you need just alil extra.


look at benafers MaD pAiNT sKilLzZ Yo
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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GREAT!!!!

i was afraid for a moment though, one of the back sleeves wouldnt slide right on just like the other rear sleeve. i had to give it a little more push to get it to slide down. im thinking its just the paint ont he shock that causes it.

and Question: since equal length springs,

Springs interchange able front/back while
SLEVEES not interchangeable, correct?

thanks for the fast help!
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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add another, just making sure, im paranoid about things, like my 1 week ctr cam install, and 2 try oilpan gasket change.

"tighten clamping screw before setting car down"

is that for that screw that needs the allen wrench? tighten it down so the adjusting height adjusting gold piece tigtens/closes up and doesnt move?
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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man..this is why i love H-T..people like him...what a great help for him
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 216.226.142.95:27016 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">add another, just making sure, im paranoid about things, like my 1 week ctr cam install, and 2 try oilpan gasket change.

"tighten clamping screw before setting car down"

is that for that screw that needs the allen wrench? tighten it down so the adjusting height adjusting gold piece tigtens/closes up and doesnt move?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes be carefull with it though, you might want to use some anti seezi
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Milano-Red GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man..this is why i love H-T..people like him...what a great help for him</TD></TR></TABLE>

GC has great customer services
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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the over thinking continues:

the circle metal washer that he crossed out, one has a slightly larger diameter but thiner while the other is smaller but thicker. does it matter which one is used? i think not, just as long as its consistent in all 4 corners?
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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use the washer that fits most snug around the shock shaft, the smaller of teh two I.D's
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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what numbers ore on teh springs?
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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oh god did you install already

you need the rubber silicon rings man...god dann...ur coil over won't get unstable ....those go between the sleeve and the shock...so the metal won't grind each and making sound, if they move around god ddann suspension will goign weird...
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 216.226.142.95:27016 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the over thinking continues:

the circle metal washer that he crossed out, one has a slightly larger diameter but thiner while the other is smaller but thicker. does it matter which one is used? i think not, just as long as its consistent in all 4 corners?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yesh it does matter to use the right one...pick the one that you think best fit in...usually the smaller one, if you found one, put it in the shock and slide the sleeve down, you have two rubber ring...one on top one on bottom of the same shock..so each shock should have 2 rubber rings
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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eerrrt SHHHHHHHH


you don't know what your talking about.

he has "baby sleeve" that do not requir the rubber o rings they are a tight fit.

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beedoublejay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here, and just follow the instructions:







Any other Q's just ask.</TD></TR></TABLE> this is the funniest, most informative post ever! funny funny funny
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:35 PM
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haha...funny but still good info...its "artwork"
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 03:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beedoublejay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what numbers ore on teh springs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

length diameter spring rate
800 250 500
800 250 400

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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 05:03 AM
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great f'in pics,and illistration...
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 05:35 AM
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 05:48 AM
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Default Re: ground control install help (216.226.142.95:27016)

Hmm you got the same length springs all around... that means you won't be able to go as low in the back, but maybe that doesn't matter to you.

Did you order koni-specific Ground Controls? The sleeves should match the diameter of the koni shock body EXACTLY, and they should have a machined lip on the bottom that sits on the circlip on the shock body. You do not use the Koni spring perch, or the metal rings on the front shocks that go under the spring perch.

The 2 flat washers are meant to go above and below the stock dust cover. You can't use the stock dust cover, but I still put on both washers anyway. Both washers should have the same ID, but one has a slightly larger OD than the other one. The smaller one goes on first, then the larger one on top.

So your install should go like this:

1. slip sleeve over shock (I used a piece of electrical tape to keep the sleeve from spinning on the shock body)
2. Put on the bump stop
3. then those 2 washers
4. now put on the spring
5. then the upper mount, with the new GC insulator installed, and also the new Koni metal sleeve installed in the bushings
6. then the dished washer, dish facing up
7. then the 2 jam nuts

Here's a how-to thread I made, which also includes custom-made dust boots, but you should be able to follow it whether you want to use those boots or not:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=917766
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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lol nice directions, dude.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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