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96 cx hatch with coilovers has soft brakes after sharp turning

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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 01:39 PM
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Default 96 cx hatch with coilovers has soft brakes after sharp turning

I bought this car and it has coilovers, adjustable control arms (for camber), and 15 inch rims.

When I turn the wheel far, like a u-turn, or when parking, immediately after the brakes are very soft. Then I have to pump them a few times to get them stiff again. So, it can be dangerous if I don't check them after acute turns.

There are no brake problems otherwise. In my troubleshooting, I did replace the master cylinder and the rear wheel cylinders, and extensively bled everything.

I put the front end on jack stands. I noticed on one side the bolt that attaches the brake line to the caliper hits the fork. I don't think the line gets kinked, or excessively stretched. At least as far as I can tell by looking when I turn the wheel all the way one direction then the other. It does make the brakes soft after I do that.

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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 03:05 PM
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Default Re: 96 cx hatch with coilovers has soft brakes after sharp turning

Caliper hits the strut fork thingy, This pushes the caliper body toward the rotor, which makes the pad push the piston in and then you have to pump the pedal to move it back out, just like you do after putting new pads on. It's not a hydraulic issue at all.
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 04:20 PM
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Default Re: 96 cx hatch with coilovers has soft brakes after sharp turning

So it is lowered too much? I need to make it clear obviously. What does it look like stock?
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Old Jun 25, 2016 | 02:24 AM
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Default Re: 96 cx hatch with coilovers has soft brakes after sharp turning

First thing to check is the orientation of the forks. There is an L and an R stamped on them. The L belongs on the driver side and the R the passenger side.





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Old Jun 25, 2016 | 09:30 AM
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Default Re: 96 cx hatch with coilovers has soft brakes after sharp turning

Actually I did check that. They are on the correct side. Someone really dorked this suspension job.
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Old Jun 25, 2016 | 12:26 PM
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Default Re: 96 cx hatch with coilovers has soft brakes after sharp turning

Originally Posted by dazebreak
Actually I did check that. They are on the correct side. Someone really dorked this suspension job.
Actually, I don't think they are.

The picture you posted above looks like the right side, passenger, fork. The "bend" in the fork should face the caliper, not the opposite, like in your picture.

I can also see a little gap at the front of the fork. The is when the pinch bolt goes in. It should be at the rear of the fork.







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Old Jun 25, 2016 | 12:29 PM
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Default Re: 96 cx hatch with coilovers has soft brakes after sharp turning

If everything really does checkout, it's possible you don't have the correct forks, but they do look to be install on the wrong sides.





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Old Jun 25, 2016 | 10:15 PM
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Default Re: 96 cx hatch with coilovers has soft brakes after sharp turning

Originally Posted by eHMxhACk
If everything really does checkout, it's possible you don't have the correct forks, but they do look to be install on the wrong sides.





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Maybe I just check a service manual pic and thought it looked good. I will double check again and for markings.
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Old Aug 1, 2016 | 08:57 AM
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They were on the wrong side! OMG WTF! All good now!
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