<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Maxi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, here you go Trogdor...

'07 VIR GT Live specs:
'93 Civic CX hatchback
C-West N1 body kit
JDM NSX 'Lime Green Metallic' paint by Discovery Auto Collision
custom Auto Analyser Racing carbon-kelvar front splitter
J's Racing/Voltex rear wing (requires a JDM SiR hatch spoiler for mounting)
8-point roll cage (2150 lbs without driver)
K24A2 engine, stock block, Skunk2 Stage 1 cams
customized (moved the ports) Fluidyne DC2 aluminum radiator
K20A2 transmission with 5.0 CRV final drive and JDM ITR 4,5,6 gears
Exedy Hyper Single clutch kit including chromoly flywheel
Axle System driveshafts
HAsport mounts
Hybrid Racing wiring harness
shorty intake with bigass K&N cone filter
DC Sports 'K-swap' header
3'' Vibrant cat-back
DC2 5-lug conversion
AP Racing two-piston front calipers and 12'' rotors and Hawk DTC-60 pads
DC2 ITR rear brakes, El Cheapo rear pads
Goodridge SS brake lines
Motul brake fluid
SSR Competition 17x8'' wheels with 235/40-17 rubber (Toyo RA-1, R888 or BFG R1)
Moton triple adjustable shocks
Eibach ERS springs
Skunk2 front upper camber-adjustable arms front and rear
ASR rear subframe brace/sway bar system with 23mm JDM ITR rear bar
AiM Pista dash/data acq. (used to run a MSD G2X, which is an excellent product too).

Over the winter I'll be installing:
Built K24 that'll be good for 275whp or so, I hope
Vibrant CAI with a BPi velocity stack and K&N filter with a custom enclosure
Shock sensors so we can set up the Motons more scientifically
Revised Eibach spring rates
Orijin front camber control spherical bearings/bushings
J's Racing roll center adjusters
PCi rear trailing arm spherical bearings
Adjustable rear sway bar and a ITR front sway bar
redoing the front half of the roll cage to make it safer/stronger
redoing the seat mounting system and lower the steering column for a better seating/driving postion
Some cleaning up of the interior with carbon trim and such, plus maybe a carbon hatch and doors to take more weight out of the car.
It never ends!!!

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Nice! Do you still run this car in the Castrol Canadian Touring Car Championship? ST class? I think I am going to do a few races next year seems like fun series that my car naturally falls into

 

slammed_93_hatch, our car isn't low enough to the ground that splitter-to-tarmac contact is a concern. If I keep the car on the track, it's not going to rub on anything. In really severe corners with a lot of weight transfer the leading edge/corner may rub a bit, but that's about it. Plus we have hard mounting points (1/2 thick maple wood) built into the splitter's core, so it'd take a serious blow to crack this sucker. But on a ALMS car that's only a inch off the ground, I can see how having soft mounts for the splitter would be key since you don't want to be driving around on the splitter and therefore having infinite spring rate.

descartes, our Mosport time this year was honestly just beginning to explore the car's potential, since we only did one event at Mosport this year and had no testing on the new suspension and aero package. Next year when we're able to test and set up the Motons properly we should run in the 31's or maybe the high 30's, but I think that'll be about it. We'll have enough motor and suspension, but the short wheelbase of the EG really hurts it around Mosport. The car is a real handful thru turns 2, 4 and 8.

As for the $ signs next to the parts, I think I'll pass. Wouldn't want my wife seeing that!

Matt, yeah CCTCC ST class, but we only made it to one race because of body work and a failed motor. Next year we should be out to 4-5 races, plus I'm doing a few World Challenge races in a Scion tC if all goes well. The CCTCC is a really fun series with quite a few ex- and current World Challenge cars in it, plus lots of regional/local level cars built to a high standard.

 

So how reliable are those Motons? Guys from Kensai told me they had to have their RSX ones rebuilt or at least re-valved often, almost at every Grand-Am event I think he said. That was last year and I don't know if things were any different with their TSX's (also don't know if they were running the series' sponsor Koni's yet). A guy from Realtime told me the same thing a few years ago at Mosport when they changed from Mugen dampers on their ITR's to Motons. Just curious what your experience is.

 

RSX's are notoriously hard on shocks. Kensai broke some JRZ's, if memory serves. The suspension geometry up front puts a huge load on the shock piston and shaft, from what Ray at Kensai told me. However, I haven't heard of them having any problems with the TSX's and they did run Motons this year, not Konis. My friends at Auto Analyser Racing run Motons on their SPEED World Challenge IS300's and as far as I know they've got two seasons of hard use on them without any rebuilds. I've only run a handful events on the Motons on my EG, so no sign of any problems so far but I'll keep you posted.

 

On the GA team i used to work for we ran TSX's, with motons. We ran 1.5 season on them with out touching them. About half way through that we added droop limiters in the rear and every thing was fine.

From the BMW WC guys the moton's lasted them a while too, they did have trouble with others blowing out.

A HC racers runs JRZ (which are the same as the motons) and he ran all year long with out any trouble.

 

that looks great...can you post a detailed how too? thanks!

 

There was a guy at the '07 ITR Expo with a GA ITR on Motons, said he had put 3 seasons on them without a rebuild and they were still great.

 

teamsol, there's a detailed how-to in the November issue of Modified Mag, with Part 2 showing how we mounted it to the chassis in the upcoming Feb issue.

Good to hear I may not have to rebuild my Motons for a while

 

Really nice car there. I followed a K20a.org post of yours as well MAXI. Good to see the K24 getting put to the test now. I dig the C-west front and J's racing wing setup. Nice work on the Splitter. If I were to redesign off of what you have already made, I'd have some flexiblity built in with compliant spacers b/t the splitter and frame rails. Possibly one good thing about not having the mounts compliant is that in the case of a really hard impact, the spliter is more likely to just shatter and disipate without becoming lodged somewhere. nice work non the less.

Those are some crazy spring rates. Just in Aww really. Makes me want a set of motons on my next track ride (M3).

 

Interesting idea to put a rubber bushing or something compliant between the post and the rail and/or the post and the splitter. The only downside I can see to this is that under impact the rubber would be compressed so quickly I'm not sure it'd do much good, plus it would allow some movement up/down of the splitter making the downforce less consistent/predictable, which might make setting the rest of the aero and suspension up tricky.

Glad you like the blingy JDM hotness on the car. I hope it's also actually offering some real aero advantages, which I *think* it is, but since I don't have a wind tunnel budget I'm livin' on hopes and dreams!

Enjoyed your Skunk2 coilover review. Nice to see you spankin' some Rustangs!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Maxi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting idea to put a rubber bushing or something compliant between the post and the rail and/or the post and the splitter. The only downside I can see to this is that under impact the rubber would be compressed so quickly I'm not sure it'd do much good, plus it would allow some movement up/down of the splitter making the downforce less consistent/predictable, which might make setting the rest of the aero and suspension up tricky.

Glad you like the blingy JDM hotness on the car. I hope it's also actually offering some real aero advantages, which I *think* it is, but since I don't have a wind tunnel budget I'm livin' on hopes and dreams!

Enjoyed your Skunk2 coilover review. Nice to see you spankin' some Rustangs!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I woundln't put REAL squishy stuff there, but non the less, testing would have to be done.. . 1/8" of compression might be all your need to save the impact from effecting handeling greatly!

Oh I've spanked more than rustangs We all know what these K20 cars can do. They just plain **** people off out there with Vetts, Evos, Stis, E46 M3s, Porsches. I enjoy getting the point-by from all of them equally and frequently!!

Thanks for the compliment on the SKunk Post

Keep up the good work on your Ride. I'll be watching!

 

Well we'll have to try testing some different "bushings" for the splitter mounting system and see how it works. I'll set up a bullet cam to see if there's too much movement of the splitter for my liking, or should I say the liking of my race engineer friend Andrew from Auto Analyser Racing who has a huge brain when it comes to this stuff

K-power rulez the skool fo sho! I passed a 600hp Supra TT at VIR during a Time Attack practice session, which was kinda cool. I didn't know at the time that the Supra had that much jam, but some guy came up to me in the paddock and was jumping up and down while he said to me with a smile, "dude, I saw you pass that Supra...that was so sick...he's got 600hp and he got dusted by a Civic!" Haha!

 

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Matt, yeah CCTCC ST class, but we only made it to one race because of body work and a failed motor. Next year we should be out to 4-5 races, plus I'm doing a few World Challenge races in a Scion tC if all goes well. The CCTCC is a really fun series with quite a few ex- and current World Challenge cars in it, plus lots of regional/local level cars built to a high standard. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I am hoping to run a few World Challenge races next year and at 4 CCTCC races along with East Coast Honda Challenge... should be a busy schedule.

I look forward to racing with you and checking out your ride!

 

Matt, I will be at 3 World Challenge events too driving a Scion tC, so we should be seeing a lot of each other! Us grassroots Honda guys will have to try to team up and do some bump drafting during qualifying or something!

Will WC let you run your DC2 or will you be driving something else? I'd love to run my EG in WC, though I guess I'd have to paint it yellow in honor of Roger Foo

 

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Will WC let you run your DC2 or will you be driving something else? </TD></TR></TABLE>

the dc2 was last produced in 01, it has longer then any of the other popular Honda chassis.

i think the dc2 can run until 2009


Modified by slammed_93_hatch at 3:12 PM 11/24/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Maxi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Matt, I will be at 3 World Challenge events too driving a Scion tC, so we should be seeing a lot of each other! Us grassroots Honda guys will have to try to team up and do some bump drafting during qualifying or something!

Will WC let you run your DC2 or will you be driving something else? I'd love to run my EG in WC, though I guess I'd have to paint it yellow in honor of Roger Foo </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah we will be seeing each other alot! I am really excited for the upcoming season! the CCTCC ST class will be fun and cool to runt he streets of Toronto.

WC is still debaeing if they will let me run the DC2, they might because Andrie Hartanto set a precedence using a minor loophole in the rule book allowing cars from similar series to compete in limited races. I have my fingers crossed that they will alow it, Shaun Passen the old Technical Director quit and my deal was with him so we shall see...

Roger Foo has always had awsome cars, I hear he is coming back to WC in 2008.

 

Dave,

so, you are the one doing tC with Marshall. Exciting stuff.

We are also trying to compete in more WC races next year with a TSX. Once the schedule is out we will know better. I don't expect to do too well, as we will need some development time.

Matt,
the problem with the DC2 is different than mine. I set precedence in engine swap, that my car run K series. My car is coming from other series and therefore can run in WC in limited races assuming I meet the rules.

The problem with DC2 is eligible year. WC only allows 3 + 3. Means 3 years after last production year the car still eligible to run full season. And then another 3 years to run partial season.

According to them, my car body style last year of production is 2002. so the car is eligible until 2008 to run partial season.

The DC2 las year of production is 2001. So the last year to run is 2007. However, this is not set in stone. The officials are allowed to do exception on case by case basis.

 

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Roger Foo has always had awsome cars, I hear he is coming back to WC in 2008.</TD></TR></TABLE>

really what is he supposed to be driving.

 

Thats news to me.. and i live a few blocks from Roger..
No wait.. I haven't talked to him in a bit.... lol.

 

Andrie, yup I'm the guy teamed up with Marshall. Should be a fun weekend!

 

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Matt,
the problem with the DC2 is different than mine. I set precedence in engine swap, that my car run K series. My car is coming from other series and therefore can run in WC in limited races assuming I meet the rules.

The problem with DC2 is eligible year. WC only allows 3 + 3. Means 3 years after last production year the car still eligible to run full season. And then another 3 years to run partial season.

According to them, my car body style last year of production is 2002. so the car is eligible until 2008 to run partial season.

The DC2 las year of production is 2001. So the last year to run is 2007. However, this is not set in stone. The officials are allowed to do exception on case by case basis.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok well the good news is I can run it next year got the ok from Aaron!

 

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really what is he supposed to be driving.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Someone said he was teaming up with Glenn from Colbolt Friction they used to run together in the I-moto Grand Am team (tsx) and they are going to run WC next year.