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Old 11-24-2002, 03:45 PM
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I hate my neighbor.

My neighbor is a fanatical shifter kart guy. he won the 2000 National championship in F125 (autocross) in his shifter.

He got me involved in shifter karts.

I hate him.

So, he loads up the 125cc Shifter and his fast toy (as if the 125cc wasn't fast enough)...which is a 250cc (60hp/30tq).

So, he's unloading the 250cc kart... leaves the 125cc on the trailer.

he runs once, brings it in... and says:
"So, where's your jacket?" Implying he wants ME to take the 250 out.

When i was watching him out on the track. One guy in a 125cc shifter was accelerating, full throttle probably going quite fast...my neighbor was in the 250cc chasing him.

Imagine a LS1 chasing down a Civic Si. that's how fast the 250cc caught up with the 125cc.

So, i get in it, thinking i'm gonna die.

This kart is fast. I hate my neighbor.

The kart is sooo fast, that my neckbrace fell off and i had problems trying to keep my helmet's visor from flipping open.

Getting back into my car, EVERYTHING seems to be moving soooo slowly. I can imagine this making someone a VERY VERY fast driver... Everything happens soooo blistering fast that it's hard to concentrate. I couldn't hit the apexes at all and i was sooo far off the driving line...and i still was pretty fast. This kart REALLY covers up driver error.

I wish i had pictures of the kart lifting the front inside wheel around almost every turn... it sticks and accelerates better and faster than anything i have ever driven. absolutely insane. My arms are sore, my back aches, my ribs are sore, and the grin on my face is permenant.

I hate my neighbor.

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Old 11-24-2002, 04:38 PM
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Sweet! I wish I had a shifter kart!
Old 11-24-2002, 05:15 PM
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i wish i meet up with you guys last week!!
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There was a shifter cart that came down to an autocross not too long ago, and almost won the autocross. Unfortunate for him, my friend in his S/C Integra GS-R beat him by a tenth of a second, only because the shifter cart ran out of gearing to go faster.

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shifter karts are the fastest thing here in vegas.

can't beat them. in PAX, possibly... raw time. nope.

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clearly, nothing will beat a shifter cart. I am definitely giving it some thought.
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Didn't Grassroots do an article on this.
Beat a Vette, too...
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well, considering the only other class that beat F125 at nationals was A-Mod...
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karts are where i got started. much for the shifter karts!
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what a great neighbor you have... you must him. cool pic.
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Dave Hironaka? We have a mailing list for F125 autocrossers.

Mine has been apart for well over a year, just fired up the engine last night for the first time after the rebuild. Neighbors loved it I'm sure at 10pm in my garage.
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If an integra beat a kart at an autocross, there was something seriously wrong with the kart or its driver.
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Kam, where was this? Looks to be off of 15 or 95.
Old 11-25-2002, 11:05 AM
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Kam, where was this? Looks to be off of 15 or 95.
It's at sloan just off of I15.

Take I-15 towards Stateline and exit Sloan. Go under the bridge, go right on Vegas Blvd... and it's on the left side about 2 miles down.
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I drool over every aspect of shifter carts.

I hate you and your neighbor


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I drool over every aspect of shifter carts.

I hate you and your neighbor


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my arms hurt from driving it.

I may have had 30mins of actual driving time too. it's a work out and a half.
Old 11-25-2002, 12:50 PM
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my arms hurt from driving it.

I may have had 30mins of actual driving time too. it's a work out and a half.
so I've heard , hopefully I'll find out very soon...
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If an integra beat a kart at an autocross, there was something seriously wrong with the kart or its driver.
Well, it was a Corvette club event, meaning the course was big and open. The cart was topping out at about 60-70 mph, considering it was only one gear. The Integra that beat him was JRSCed, had springs, 5 way adjustable struts, sway bar, R compoud tires, and a good driver.
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If an integra beat a kart at an autocross, there was something seriously wrong with the kart or its driver.Well, it was a Corvette club event, meaning the course was big and open. The cart was topping out at about 60-70 mph, considering it was only one gear. The Integra that beat him was JRSCed, had springs, 5 way adjustable struts, sway bar, R compoud tires, and a good driver.
must have been a rotax.

Shifter karts have 6 gears... and are usually geared to hit 100mph. There's no way a shifter kart, even driven 50% is going to be beaten by an integra in an autocross.

and it's "kart".

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plus that guy is crazy. has no long sleeves on and driving a kart. I've learned that you need:

- neck brace
- elbow protection (the engine is right there and hitting your elbow on a hot engine hurts)
- rib protection (stress fractures anyone?)
- gloves
- something to tie your pant legs so they don't flap open
- and lots of water.
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how does one get involved with shifter carts?
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The kart is fast. I hate my neighbor.
You should be a writer.. I haven't laugh like that in a long time.

He got me involved in shifter karts.

I hate him.
LOL!
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The kart was a 100 cc clutch kart. If it were a shifter kart, I know I wouldn't have stood a chance.
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damn is it really that fast?

is it possible to beat cars too or what?
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At Seattle Int'l Raceway (now Pacific Raceway) the 250cc PSGKA "enduro" karts used to turn times that weren't far off of a Formula Toyota Atlantic time...

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