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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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So I emailed circuithero.com about their shift rod extender the other day and they are out of stock for Hondas. He said it would be awhile before he got any in.

My question is do any of you know of any where else I might pick one up at?

I need it before Oct. 1st. I saw the shifter made by fastline performance but I really don't want to run the tall shifter everyday. I already have a great short shifter but I wanted the ability to switch between the two, one for track days and one for daily driving. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleepless247 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I saw the shifter made by fastline performance but I really don't want to run the tall shifter everyday.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think you'd change your mind once you use one. It's a pretty nice piece. Probably in stock, too.
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Your probably right, but I'd like to try the two different ways first. Thanks for the info!
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thawley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think you'd change your mind once you use one. It's a pretty nice piece. Probably in stock, too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you using one John?
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicrr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you using one John?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah. Took three seconds off my best time at Willow lat time out. Biggest change was the shifter. Was it just coincidence? We may never know...
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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Keep in mind that the fastline is in-effect a SUPER short-throw shifter with an extension.

If you use a typical short-throw shifter and add an extension you're net result will likely be a longer throw.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 05:41 AM
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FLP
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 06:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeffS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Keep in mind that the fastline is in-effect a SUPER short-throw shifter with an extension. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not sure I follow you. The difference between a stock shifter and a "short" shifter is the distance between the fulcrum/ball and the linkage attachment point. The Fastline is the same as stock. It moves the shift forks with the same mechanical advantage below the ball. Up top, the Fastline's lever is longer and requires a greater arc of travel from gear to gear. It actually uses a longer throw than stock and longer still than a "short" shifter. The placement of the shift **** and its balance are what make it trick.
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Old Sep 25, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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the circuit hero is to be used with a short throw. otherwise you would hit the dash when you shifted to 1/3/5. the flp is the same principal. the shift linkage attachment point on the bottom of the flp is much lower than a stock shift lever. thus making the throws very short at an oem shift levet height. once the 2nd half (top adjustable part) of the flp is installed, the throws are about like stock with the shift **** twice as hich as stock shift lever placement.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 06:47 AM
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Are you able to attach a shift **** to the first part of the FLP shifter or do you have to run the second piece all the time?
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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second peice all the time. but once you drive with it you wont want to go back to a stock height shifter.....evAr
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thawley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not sure I follow you. The difference between a stock shifter and a "short" shifter is the distance between the fulcrum/ball and the linkage attachment point. The Fastline is the same as stock. It moves the shift forks with the same mechanical advantage below the ball. Up top, the Fastline's lever is longer and requires a greater arc of travel from gear to gear. It actually uses a longer throw than stock and longer still than a "short" shifter. The placement of the shift **** and its balance are what make it trick.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I completely understand the mechanics of a lever.

I also disagree with your statement that the length of the arm below the fulcrum (on the FLP) is the same as a stock shifter. Here's a picture to backup my theory.



My point continues to be, that on a "standard" quick shifter the lower arm length is probably not going to be as long as the FLP. As a result, the shift throw will end up being longer if you simply add an extension to equal the **** height of the FLP.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 07:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeffS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

My point continues to be, that on a "standard" quick shifter the lower arm length is probably not going to be as long as the FLP. As a result, the shift throw will end up being longer if you simply add an extension to equal the **** height of the FLP.</TD></TR></TABLE>
for example, the short throw that came with my car was there. no issues other than it broke. when i put the FLP, the linkage attachment point is so much lower that it hits my exhaust slightly.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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So besides the FLP is there any other kind out there?
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Just get the FLP. I drive to work daily with mine and I love it.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thawley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah. Took three seconds off my best time at Willow lat time out. Biggest change was the shifter. Was it just coincidence? We may never know...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha. I think I know what took those 3 seconds off your time!
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 02:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleepless247 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So besides the FLP is there any other kind out there?</TD></TR></TABLE> if you can find a C's driving position shifter, that would be better than the FLP. but they dont make the C's anymore.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 05:56 AM
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Thanks for the info guys I'll look into it.
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