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Old 03-22-2011, 05:47 AM
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Default My CR-X track car (non vtec) how to make it faster

Hi, I have a CRX with B20 non vtec just for track days, it has 205 whp, ITR 98 spec tranny, tires Advan A048 205-50-15, PIC coilovers, etc, the car runs very good but I need to make it faster at the track, I have to decide what of these three options to do:

- Mfactory gear ratios

- Wider rims-tires

- Light weight (remove door panels, floor insulation and window glasses)

This is a video of the last track day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3fNPApQoHg
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I think you are also leaving some time on the track by trying to "autocross" the corner exits so tightly.

And 205's are much too small for that much power.

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i would go with option 3.
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wider wheels/tires and less weight. Gears will cost you a lot of money and not make the car much faster at the track in your video.
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WIder wheel & tire, aero, light weight
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Judging from your video, you definitely need:
_ Wider wheels/tires.
_ Light weight to free up more HP.
_ I could be wrong but you could use a little more seating close-up to the steering wheel?
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Nice driving! Keep up posted w updates
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More tire and more seat time on track without idiots that think it's a race! It makes great video trying to pass people like that, but doesn't allow you to work on developing more speed in the car.

I'd also seriously suggest a cage at this point. The car is fast enough and your going fast enough that if something happens in that car on track, you are going to have have a much higher likely hood of being hurt without one!
Just my 2 cents.
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If I ran like that with another car at a "track day" (besides an instructor sessions during the racing school) I would be sent home and invited not to return.

I couldn't get passed that to give you any driving feedback but for the car:

Wider tires, go to 225's
More power
Better suspension and a take time to set it up with camber, toe, shocks, pyrometer etc.
Add a cage
Oh yea and add a cage.


p.s. you should add a cage.
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first of all thats some bad *** driving, second wow your car looks so out of place compared to the other cars...goes to show you dont need an expensive car to be fast around a course...kinda sad how hondas technology from the early 90's can still be competitive 20 years later...3rd, i would say u def need the widest tire you can fit on that car i mean you need to exaggerate it like 15x10 wheels if you can...that is by far the best mod i hav done to my 7th gen accord race car....have a look i have 17x9.5 + 15offset MB Battle wheels with 245/40/17 tires...i will attempt to fit 275/40/17 tires in the near future....heres a pic for reference i had to pull out the front and rear fenders becuz they stuk out ~2 inches....
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Thanks for your ideas, that day I was with a heavy understeer because I was trying to test new camber and tire pressure setup, my best time that day was 55.1 and my own record is 53.99

Those MB Battle wheels looks great, but I can´t find them on 15´´, do you know if they are avaible at that size? if not I´m thinkin getting 949 UL 15x8 and A048 on 225, what´s the best tire store to get them?

I tried to put a cage on it last year, but damn I´m on Chile, the "best" place to make it the guys just ruined the oem jdm paint at second day of working, so I never wanna take the car to another place, will try to see if I can import a cage from US

Here is the video with better setup and best time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_1HpoDanTk
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If you don't mind me asking, how are you making 205 whp with non-vtec? Are you running crower 405s?
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Lighter weight, wider wheels as others have said. Gears WILL work BUT..... you would have to change the ratios for that specific track to see a big improvement...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEutvZXAQQc

these guys have anything to do with you motor? there from Chile too.... Looks like a lot of fun in that thing...
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Originally Posted by volcom40street2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEutvZXAQQc

these guys have anything to do with you motor? there from Chile too.... Looks like a lot of fun in that thing...
I used to work for that shop and tuned that car many times, and there was built my engine, from my 205 dyno I have changed to VictorX intake, big end header exhaust, e cutout, etc, so I think I could be near 220 whp at this time.

And yes I use 405s cams.

The advantage using ratios is that track is the only one we have near Santiago, so every track day happens only there, but I will try to get semi slicks on 225 and 8 wide wheels
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Can you explain the engine setup a little more in detail please?
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Originally Posted by crazydominicanman
Can you explain the engine setup a little more in detail please?
Basicly 12:1 CR, some head work, Crower valve train with 405, Type R 98 spec Header, short intake manifold w/68TB or ITB´s on the 1.8, 440 cc injectors and that´s it.
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LOVE THE VID
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a type R header?


have you thought about getting a better header? i know they are OK, but they arent that OK.

PLEASE cage that little animal. haha
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you need more tire and aero. front splitter, rear wing, 15x9-10, 225-275 hoosier
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Default Re: My CR-X track car (non vtec) how to make it faster

Originally Posted by whoami44
If you don't mind me asking, how are you making 205 whp with non-vtec? Are you running crower 405s?
Originally Posted by kbs
I used to work for that shop and tuned that car many times, and there was built my engine, from my 205 dyno I have changed to VictorX intake, big end header exhaust, e cutout, etc, so I think I could be near 220 whp at this time.

And yes I use 405s cams.

The advantage using ratios is that track is the only one we have near Santiago, so every track day happens only there, but I will try to get semi slicks on 225 and 8 wide wheels
I've had the same burning question since I first saw this thread. Impressive
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Originally Posted by redzcstandardhatch
a type R header?


have you thought about getting a better header? i know they are OK, but they arent that OK.

PLEASE cage that little animal. haha
That was the old setup when I made 205 whp, now it has Big end header and Victor X intake manifold.

The car is also street driven so the Hoosiers could be only used for the track, so I´m thinking getting NT01 225-45 for their price and durability and PF01 Enkei
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This is cool man. I find that I'm really diggin on the non-vtec motors lately. Simple motors with usable power bands
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#2 and #3... also, you might want to look into some brakes you should have run the vette down in the braking zone not checked up.
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I would cage it and than go after the other things. Any idea what the car weighs in its normal set-up?
After adding the cage (and obvious weight) you could than go back and remove that weight from other areas.


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