extended wheel studs
im not into auto-x or anything but maybe this spring ill start getting into it a little more.
my question is what extended wheel studs do you guys recommed for a honda civic?
the only ones i know of are skunk 2 which i allready own but havnt installed.
are skunk 2 good quality or what?
if not tell me why and can u please recommed some places to get good ones.
TIA
my question is what extended wheel studs do you guys recommed for a honda civic?
the only ones i know of are skunk 2 which i allready own but havnt installed.
are skunk 2 good quality or what?
if not tell me why and can u please recommed some places to get good ones.
TIA
Well technically you don't need them or are required to have them for any classes I can recall in either RR or AX. So if you are not competing now and even when you do, you don't "need" them. There will be no performance advantage.
You "need" them if you're using spacers, or big brakes (with thick rotor hats), or wheels with extremely numerically low offset numbers, or some combination of the above, etc... basically anything which is causing you to run out of a "safe" amount of threads to put you lugnuts on.
What is safe, well that depends on the torque load on the particular stud thread pitch. I think H&R recommended that Honda/Acura's (80ft-lbs) have 6 full turns of the lugnut (1.25 pitch thread). That was the <U>minimum</U> safe amount.
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Now that being said and you have some need to put them on anyway, I've used H&R's and Skunk's.
1) I personally don't like the Skunk fitment into the Honda hub. The "grip" part of the stud, that's supposed to fit into the hub, "mushrooms" and causes the stud to splay outward instead of perfectly straight. This prevents the cap of the stud from resting flat against the hub. The material is soft enough, partly due to the design theory that its better to bend then break one of these and partly due to the zinc coating, that they are only good for one pressing. You mess up the first time and don't bother trying to repress it in. I will say, I've used them in 8 locations and 8 are still tight. Of course I went through like 12 studs for those 8 locations.
2) The H&R's reminded me of the OEM Honda ones. You could press them in and if necessary take them out and repress them. No mushrooming of material. However, I have them in 8 locations and 2 have come loose. I believe JohnG on this board had the same problem and he ended up tack welding them to the hub. That way you can grind off the tack and press them out when you need to change them or the hubs.
I haven't used the ARP ones, the GM application is supposed to fit Hondas. Cheaper than Skunk, best buy for your money. It has the correct thread pitch and diameter. But some people say its such a tight fit in the hubs that it is putting undue stress on the hub. Others don't mind, I haven't heard of any hub failures related to this yet. Its up to you to decide.
Lastly, three letters: O-E-M. They fit like..........stock. They are damn good quality, after all Honda spec'd them. And if you get some Acura applications they are longer. You just have to figure out which one, hint do a search, Tyson on this board did the legwork.
[Modified by XrcR6, 3:51 PM 12/5/2002]
You "need" them if you're using spacers, or big brakes (with thick rotor hats), or wheels with extremely numerically low offset numbers, or some combination of the above, etc... basically anything which is causing you to run out of a "safe" amount of threads to put you lugnuts on.
What is safe, well that depends on the torque load on the particular stud thread pitch. I think H&R recommended that Honda/Acura's (80ft-lbs) have 6 full turns of the lugnut (1.25 pitch thread). That was the <U>minimum</U> safe amount.
================================================== ===============
Now that being said and you have some need to put them on anyway, I've used H&R's and Skunk's.
1) I personally don't like the Skunk fitment into the Honda hub. The "grip" part of the stud, that's supposed to fit into the hub, "mushrooms" and causes the stud to splay outward instead of perfectly straight. This prevents the cap of the stud from resting flat against the hub. The material is soft enough, partly due to the design theory that its better to bend then break one of these and partly due to the zinc coating, that they are only good for one pressing. You mess up the first time and don't bother trying to repress it in. I will say, I've used them in 8 locations and 8 are still tight. Of course I went through like 12 studs for those 8 locations.
2) The H&R's reminded me of the OEM Honda ones. You could press them in and if necessary take them out and repress them. No mushrooming of material. However, I have them in 8 locations and 2 have come loose. I believe JohnG on this board had the same problem and he ended up tack welding them to the hub. That way you can grind off the tack and press them out when you need to change them or the hubs.
I haven't used the ARP ones, the GM application is supposed to fit Hondas. Cheaper than Skunk, best buy for your money. It has the correct thread pitch and diameter. But some people say its such a tight fit in the hubs that it is putting undue stress on the hub. Others don't mind, I haven't heard of any hub failures related to this yet. Its up to you to decide.
Lastly, three letters: O-E-M. They fit like..........stock. They are damn good quality, after all Honda spec'd them. And if you get some Acura applications they are longer. You just have to figure out which one, hint do a search, Tyson on this board did the legwork.
[Modified by XrcR6, 3:51 PM 12/5/2002]
one-syk,
I'm not sure why you think you need longer studs, but here's some info for you.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=244036
I'm not sure why you think you need longer studs, but here's some info for you.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=244036
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