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Old 10-18-2002, 10:37 AM
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Default Chassis Engineers: Anyone have DC2 Chassis Model File?

A doubtful possibility, but thought I'd ask.

If anyone has or can obtain a model file for the DC2 or DC2R chassis, I am willing to pay a signifcant amount for it.

Any info would be appreciated.
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ha!


but seriously, good luck
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Chassis? Unlikely. Suspension points? More likely, but I don't have them.
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Default Re: Chassis Engineers: Anyone have DC2 Chassis Model File? (sackdz)

Get in touch with rodney,

I'm pretty certain he can get his hands on all the schematics and engineering plans for the DC2.


We're all racing this weekend so just leave an IM or Email for him and he'll get back to you by Monday hopefully, I'll mention it to him though when I see him tomorrow as well...


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TO be more specific are you looking for drawings, or a 3D solid model in a CAD program?
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3D model for FEA analysis
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3D model for FEA analysis
Don't trust the Honda engineers? Seriously, what are your goals with this? I'm not trivializing your request, but someone would have to go through a LOT of trouble to make an accurate CAD model of a unibody car in their spare time.
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3D model for FEA analysis

Don't trust the Honda engineers? Seriously, what are your goals with this? I'm not trivializing your request, but someone would have to go through a LOT of trouble to make an accurate CAD model of a unibody car in their spare time.
Or, more likely, one has leaked from Honda or a Honda affiliated race team.

Goals? My own personal amusement. I have access to FEA software, and I would love to play around with different setups, and see where chassis deflection is greatest, so that I might improve my own car.
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Goals? My own personal amusement. I have access to FEA software, and I would love to play around with different setups, and see where chassis deflection is greatest, so that I might improve my own car.
so you want to mesh the entire DC2 unibody. LOFTY goal there..... good luck finding such a document for free...

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Goals? My own personal amusement. I have access to FEA software, and I would love to play around with different setups, and see where chassis deflection is greatest, so that I might improve my own car.

so you want to mesh the entire DC2 unibody. LOFTY goal there..... good luck finding such a document for free...

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With an accurate model I can at least simplify the chassis into a more convenient and easy meshing model. And as I stated in the first post, I'm willing to pay for it.
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just get a FARO arm, your DC2, lots of money and time and make your own
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lots of money and time
Of which I have neither
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Automakers aren't in the business of making sloppy frames. If you're looking for blatant weak spots you're going to be dissapointed. Aside from the usual uprgrades (strut bars, cross braces, roll cage) you're going to find yourself bracing the chassis in ways that severely limit the functionality of the car. Are you finding the DC2 chassis lacking in rigidity?
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Automakers aren't in the business of making sloppy frames.
Thanks for clearing that up.

If you're looking for blatant weak spots you're going to be dissapointed. Aside from the usual uprgrades (strut bars, cross braces, roll cage)
you're going to find yourself bracing the chassis in ways that severely limit the functionality of the car.
I am just looking to play around with it, okay? Perhaps design my own braces. My personal amusement. Thanks.

Are you finding the DC2 chassis lacking in rigidity?
Yes. Hence the market for the aftermarket suspension products.



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Default Re: Chassis Engineers: Anyone have DC2 Chassis Model File? (sackdz)

Here's my thinking.

Everybody seems to have a bar running between the rear shock towers.

A few people who are really interested in "rigidity" have bars running between the rear shoulder harness mounts.

I've been looking, and looking, and looking at the driver and passenger side handgrabs and visor mounts.......and I just know that somewhere out there somebody is gonna do it.

Scott, who says "that's what I think"......
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lmao!
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Don't forget the tweeter holes and the dome light brace
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sackdz maybe you should put your effort into vehicle dynamics simulation; the suspension geometry would be much easier data to obtain, the software is out there, and you have a lot more variables to change; in the end i think you'll gain more speed pre time spent than doing FEA, if you are actually racing a DC2. If not, and you are interested in FEA itself, thats cool too. Just a thought.
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Ed, I have wanted to ask this question for some time now also, just to lazy to ask. My reasoning wasnt for a FEA, but for designing parts and some ***** and giggles.

I have seen some GM, Ford, and alot of Nissan data that has come through work. However I have not yet seen a whole chassis or a whole car assy.

Being a job shop (design) we might be able to get something, but it might be hard. I will start asking around tomorrow and see if its possible.

What kind of file are you looking for; stp, iges, or a parasolid? We have Catia, Ideas, UG, and solidworks if that helps you any if you need anything translated.

ps. I dont think I should say this but we have whole model files of some gm engines.
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Ryan, let's get together this/next weekend and chat. You gonna be in town?

I've got Ideas. Oh, and IDEAS too!
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The words "proprietary information" and "confidentiality agreement" come to mind.
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