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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 04:00 PM
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Got my wheels aligned at Honda today and the tech says im going to need a camber kit. Here are my specs after the alignment was done.

left front
minimal nominal maximum actual
-1 0 1 -1.4 camber
0.67 1.67 2.67 1.5 caster
-0.02" 0.02" 0.06" 0.05" toe

right front
minimal nominal maximum actual
-1 0 1 -1.3 camber
0.67 1.67 2.67 1.1 caster
-0.02" 0.02" 0.06" 0.13" toe

front
actual minimal nominal maximum
cross camber -0.1 0
cross caster 0.4 0
total toe 0.18" -0.04" 0.04" 0.12"
setback 0.12

left rear
minimal nominal maximum actual
-2 -1 0 -2.7 camber
0.02" 0.04" 0.08" -0.03" toe

right rear
minimal nominal maximum actual
-2 -1 0 -1.6 camber
0.02" 0.04" 0.08" 0.27" toe

rear
actual minimal nominal maximum
0.24" 0.04" 0.08" 0.16" total toe
-0.3 thrust angle

I have heard bad things about the ingralls camber kit. I hear the control arm hits the inner fender with 2"+ drops. My car is droped right at 2" maybe alittle more. I am leaning towards the Skunk2 camber kit but I would like some insight and suggestions on which camber kit to go with.

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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Camber issues (bishop)

Got my wheels aligned at Honda today and the tech says im going to need a camber kit. Here are my specs after the alignment was done.

left front
minimal nominal maximum actual
-1 0 1 -1.4 camber
0.67 1.67 2.67 1.5 caster
-0.02" 0.02" 0.06" 0.05" toe

right front
minimal nominal maximum actual
-1 0 1 -1.3 camber
0.67 1.67 2.67 1.1 caster
-0.02" 0.02" 0.06" 0.13" toe

front
actual minimal nominal maximum
cross camber -0.1 0
cross caster 0.4 0
total toe 0.18" -0.04" 0.04" 0.12"
setback 0.12

left rear
minimal nominal maximum actual
-2 -1 0 -2.7 camber
0.02" 0.04" 0.08" -0.03" toe

right rear
minimal nominal maximum actual
-2 -1 0 -1.6 camber
0.02" 0.04" 0.08" 0.27" toe

rear
actual minimal nominal maximum
0.24" 0.04" 0.08" 0.16" total toe
-0.3 thrust angle

I have heard bad things about the ingralls camber kit. I hear the control arm hits the inner fender with 2"+ drops. My car is droped right at 2" maybe alittle more. I am leaning towards the Skunk2 camber kit but I would like some insight and suggestions on which camber kit to go with.

tell...

~Disclaimer~ I'm no expert in this field, but I do know what alignment works for me. It also depends on what YOU want.

Your rear left camber looks rather excessive. This can be corrected with washers behind the upper control arm mounts, or with a threaded kit. Your rear toe is way off. You have about 1/32 toe out on the left rear, and huge toe in (math ) on the right rear. I thought you said you got a alignment!? Front camber looks okay, but again, the toe is off.



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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 06:09 PM
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Default Re: Camber issues (bishop)

why are there 3-4 #s for each setting?
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Old Jan 30, 2002 | 07:24 PM
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Default Re: Camber issues (smokin rubber)

Factory manuals will give tollerances like Min, Max, Nom, and then of course the actual numbers at the time of alignment. Just look at his "actual" numbers.
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:35 AM
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Default Re: Camber issues (johng)

you can fix the rear camber without the kit..
you need some washers.. and *maybe* a longer bolt
and that should help you get the toe close to zero

the front you could get a kit..
the skunk2 comes with a ball joint
my ingalls occassionally hits and makes noise.. and I had to swap the ball joint
if I had to do it again.. i'd get skunk2
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 10:32 AM
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Default Re: Camber issues (Crazydave)

Crazydave: How low is your car?
Are you using both the front and rear camber kits from Ingalls?
Does the Rear hit at all?
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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Default Re: Camber issues (johng)

I guess excel doesnt copy and paste to well to h-tech.

Yes these numbers are after the alignment. I'd hate to post what they were before.

It looks like Ill be purchasing a Skunk2 front camber kit very soon. Do you guys have anymore info on this "do it your self rear camber kit"?

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