azenis or t1-s for auto-x??
07-23-2003, 06:23 PM
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 349
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
azenis or t1-s for auto-x??
what would be the better street tires fo auto-x? or maybe another street tire, please don't say an r-compound tire cause i'll need a street tire for next year.
07-23-2003, 06:27 PM
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: RIP Craig Jones
Posts: 30,826
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: azenis or t1-s for auto-x?? (speedevo)
If you are competitive in a street tire class, the Azenis is the way to go. If you are a novice, or dont compete very often - the T1-S will be superior in wet traction for daily driving. Potenza S-03's and the Kuhmo Ecsta MX are good as well.
07-23-2003, 06:29 PM
#3
Honda-Tech Member
Re: azenis or t1-s for auto-x?? (speedevo)
The Azenis *BLOW AWAY* the T1-S in autox. I owned both, I tried both, no comparison whatsoever.
Granted, this was 195/55-15 for the Toyos vs 205/50-15 for the Azenis, however I dont think that made the huge difference here.
Azenis = far more dry grip
If its a rainy autocross, the T1-S would do well I bet though.
Granted, this was 195/55-15 for the Toyos vs 205/50-15 for the Azenis, however I dont think that made the huge difference here.
Azenis = far more dry grip
If its a rainy autocross, the T1-S would do well I bet though.
07-23-2003, 07:23 PM
#5
Re: azenis or t1-s for auto-x?? (jeremyEG)
Azenis. I hesitate to recommend them, only because I want them all for myself MWAHHAHA!
Someone here was kind enough to point out the vast majority of the top national competitors using Azenis. That was proof enough for me. Plus, at their price its easier to burn through them.
Someone here was kind enough to point out the vast majority of the top national competitors using Azenis. That was proof enough for me. Plus, at their price its easier to burn through them.
07-23-2003, 07:39 PM
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: RIP Craig Jones
Posts: 30,826
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: azenis or t1-s for auto-x?? (speedevo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speedevo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do they hold up on the rain? cause i'll be attaining rain events too hence t1-s was compared</TD></TR></TABLE>
As long as there's no standing water the azenis are fine in the wet and grip very well.
As long as there's no standing water the azenis are fine in the wet and grip very well.
Trending Topics
07-23-2003, 09:52 PM
#8
Honda-Tech Member
Re: azenis or t1-s for auto-x?? (speedevo)
In the last 3 months I have autocrossed cars on Yoko AVS, Bridgestone SO-3, Bridgestone RE-71, Toyo T1-S, and Azenis. In the dry. Here is my ranking of performance:
Azenis (best by a good margin)
SO-3
RE-71
AVS
T1-S (worst, by a good margin)
All will do great with tread in the wet at autocross speeds. It's only above 60 MPH that you need to worry about the tread design on wet performance. Below 2/32", all will suck in the rain to some degree, and at some speed. At 0/32", a tire is scary in a wet slalom with a little standing water.
Just my experiences.
Azenis (best by a good margin)
SO-3
RE-71
AVS
T1-S (worst, by a good margin)
All will do great with tread in the wet at autocross speeds. It's only above 60 MPH that you need to worry about the tread design on wet performance. Below 2/32", all will suck in the rain to some degree, and at some speed. At 0/32", a tire is scary in a wet slalom with a little standing water.
Just my experiences.
07-23-2003, 09:56 PM
#9
Honda-Tech Member
Re: azenis or t1-s for auto-x?? (.RJ)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
As long as there's no standing water the azenis are fine in the wet and grip very well. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Even in some standing (puddling/running) water, Azenis kick *** at autocross speeds. We had a drencher of an event recently, and all the drivers running them thought they were phenomenal. This was on an undulating surface with streams and puddles everywhere up to, I dunno, maybe 1/4" deep.
All the "horror stories" I have heard about Azenis in the wet have been in reference to driving at speed on the highway in frog strangler storms. Yeah, there are probably better tread designs for that than the gigantic tread blocks on the Azenis.
Just passing on observations. Maybe someone out there has better data.
As long as there's no standing water the azenis are fine in the wet and grip very well. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Even in some standing (puddling/running) water, Azenis kick *** at autocross speeds. We had a drencher of an event recently, and all the drivers running them thought they were phenomenal. This was on an undulating surface with streams and puddles everywhere up to, I dunno, maybe 1/4" deep.
All the "horror stories" I have heard about Azenis in the wet have been in reference to driving at speed on the highway in frog strangler storms. Yeah, there are probably better tread designs for that than the gigantic tread blocks on the Azenis.
Just passing on observations. Maybe someone out there has better data.
07-23-2003, 11:03 PM
#10
New User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: tampa, fl
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: azenis or t1-s for auto-x?? (whitney)
in the rain, azenis' were really bad not because they have crappy water channeling- but because the water keeps them cooler. there was a huge temp. difference from my normal autocross temp, and my handling suffered- a lot- and i got a lot of bad snap oversteer. . . .
07-24-2003, 01:18 AM
#11
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Rancho Relacso, CA, USA
Posts: 9,648
Likes: 0
Received 88 Likes
on
75 Posts
Re: azenis or t1-s for auto-x?? (sloaccord)
Depends on what your needs are biased towards. More grip, less life, more frequent replacement: Azenis.
Less grip, relatively longer life, less replacement, more of a street tire: T1-S.
Less grip, relatively longer life, less replacement, more of a street tire: T1-S.
07-24-2003, 01:25 AM
#12
Member
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: V8KO, One down. One to Go.
Posts: 3,624
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: azenis or t1-s for auto-x?? (Outrun)
I really like my Azenis, I cant in good judgement pay 200 for one tire so this kinda fills that gap.
For autoxing there really good for drag racing not so really good.
For autoxing there really good for drag racing not so really good.
07-24-2003, 09:08 AM
#13
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Long Island
Posts: 890
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: azenis or t1-s for auto-x?? (RangerDan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For autoxing there really good for drag racing not so really good.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And the award for complete moron goes to...</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RangerDan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And the award for complete moron goes to...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mr.Death
Road Racing / Autocross & Time Attack
7
03-02-2009 05:07 AM