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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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Hello everyone, is there any rubbing compounds finer then 1500 grit? I find that the 3m brand one I use is too strong, and so I want to find another one thats finer, maybe 2000grit so I dont eat away too much of my clearcoat~

Which ones do you guys use/recommend?
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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i have only used turtle wax rubbing compound in the past... didn't like it too much. depending on what you are trying to accomplish though a clay bar is a good alternative. they are a little expensive but last a long time...just remember to keep it wet.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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nah, im gona buff out orange peel from a new car that i bought and didnt want to thin out the clearcoat so fast. On my older cars it was okay, as I just added an entire coat of clear before i started buffing. 3m compound buffs out 1500 grit, so i want something that buffs out 2000+ since it will be more mild.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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p.s. I care alot about the orange peel and I plan on doing a full detail on the car to make it a showroom type car, thats why I'm making plans to buff it out already

i cant wait.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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Menzerna Super Internsive Polish.

But it dont think its gonna level orange peel.

and the 200grit, etc is what sanding marks it can remove, not what "grit" the compound has.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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yeah thats what i meant. i have 2000 grit paper. polish is too mild cut to eat away orange peel tho; i have one of the meguiars top polishes, forgot which # it was.. i think 6.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwlee7ucla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah thats what i meant. i have 2000 grit paper. polish is too mild cut to eat away orange peel tho; i have one of the meguiars top polishes, forgot which # it was.. i think 6.</TD></TR></TABLE>

#6 is their cleaner wax.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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all showroom vehicles are going to have orange peel also.. its just the way it goes.
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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i spent 48+ hours (over the course of 5 days) on my ex-teggy doing so. I noticed that the clear got thinner in the very beginning so i added a coat of clear in some spots and buffed that part out, making my teg look like a mirror. I want that same kind of look in my new car.

Since this time I'm doing it on a brand new car, I don't really want to add clear to it in this fashion, so I'm aiming to just take off less clear by using more mild compounds.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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If you're looking to remove orange peel..

Wetsand using 1500 grit wet sand paper and #49 AutoMagic body shine. The best way to do this is soaking a sponge with the bodyshine or water and wraping the sand paper around it. Then follow up with a #308 3M buffer wheel set at 1200-1500 using a yellow wool pad. Next, continue to restore the paint using AutoMagic BC-2 and a blue or green foam pad.

When finished, apply 3M paste wax or AutoMagic Banana wax (paste will last longer, obviously). The shop I detail at uses only 3M and AutoMagic products, other similar products will work as well. Good luck!

p.s. I realize you already know how to do this, but this is a little info for everyone but it also answers questions you might have.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GuNnErGoD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're looking to remove orange peel..

Wetsand using 1500 grit wet sand paper and #49 AutoMagic body shine. The best way to do this is soaking a sponge with the bodyshine or water and wraping the sand paper around it. Then follow up with a #308 3M buffer wheel set at 1200-1500 using a yellow wool pad. Next, continue to restore the paint using AutoMagic BC-2 and a blue or green foam pad.

When finished, apply 3M paste wax or AutoMagic Banana wax (paste will last longer, obviously). The shop I detail at uses only 3M and AutoMagic products, other similar products will work as well. Good luck!

p.s. I realize you already know how to do this, but this is a little info for everyone but it also answers questions you might have.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Paste wax does not last longer than liquid wax. That is 100% false. Sealant lasts longer than wax, period.

And i'd love to get into a "which brand is best" debate, but I wont.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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i guess since no1 has mentioned any rubbing compounds that gets rid of 2000+ grit i'll have to just use 3m compound with my 2000 grit sandpaper. The polish i have is meguiars deep crystal clear polish(supposedly designed for dark colored cars).

Its left over from my old car (dark red integra), but i have a bright white corolla now. Should I stick with the polish i have or get a new one?
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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I use nothing but 3M perfect-it 3
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwlee7ucla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i guess since no1 has mentioned any rubbing compounds that gets rid of 2000+ grit i'll have to just use 3m compound with my 2000 grit sandpaper. The polish i have is meguiars deep crystal clear polish(supposedly designed for dark colored cars).

Its left over from my old car (dark red integra), but i have a bright white corolla now. Should I stick with the polish i have or get a new one? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Meguiars deep crystal is useless.

Use Menzerna or go home.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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this is what i do. i start with 1500 if the orange peel is bad, if it isnt, 2000-2500 is what i go with. if i start with 1500 i rub most of the peel out with that then use the 2500 to help with the 1500 scratches. then i may go with a soft 3000 to help buffing be easier. then i use 3m rubbing compound then swirl mark remover. i have never had a problem with it being to strong. it will get you there faster, but to get all the peel off you have to remove that ever clear it takes to get to that point. if you use something finer or whatever, the process is still the same, just will take longer. i can usually rub out a door, fender, and hood in no time. are you using a high speed buffer?
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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pc 7424, doesnt go as fast as a rotary.
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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Um if you have a brand new Corolla. It's single stage.

040 color code man!
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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REALLY? OH sh*t...........


so... new question..

Would orange or yellow pads remove 2000 grit scratches better?
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwlee7ucla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">REALLY? OH sh*t...........


so... new question..

Would orange or yellow pads remove 2000 grit scratches better?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yellow has more cut.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mztykal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Um if you have a brand new Corolla. It's single stage.

040 color code man!</TD></TR></TABLE>


damn right the new corolla are single stage. i just spray a qtr panel and blend the door on one yesterday at work
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