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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Hey guys, I am not to great with body work so any help on this would be great...

I was involved in an accident a few weeks ago which was not my fault. However the front right side of my car was hit at 25 mph. After taking off the right fender, hood and bumper, the damage consists of...
- Minor hood crumpling.
- Right side fender dented.
- Front bumper cracked and scraped.
- Front bumper support SLIGHTLY dented on the right side.
- Radiator support angled down.
- Broken headlight and mishaped headlight housing (part of radiator support assembly I think).
- Right side upper wheel house metal slightly crumpled.
- Right side frame rail bent down wards and crumpled about an inch.

What should I do to fix this? Cut and weld a whole new right side frame rail as well as a new upper wheel house assembly? I also figured I would need a new radiator support, all that and paint. The right side motor mount is fine as well as the lower transimission bracket. What do you guys think about this? I have never done body work myself, however I would like to know what we are looking at here. Any help would be great.

I have pictures if needed, but they arn't that great. I'll have to get better updated ones now that the bumper and everything is off.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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From your description I believe you need to take your car to a good body shop and have it measured and pulled on a frame rack.
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Old Oct 4, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slow_srt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From your description I believe you need to take your car to a good body shop and have it measured and pulled on a frame rack.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats a given. The frame can be straightned im sure, but how good would it hold up if I were to get hit there again? I would figure it's structural integrity would be compramised. How hard would it be to install a new right side frame rail?

The car will be taken to a body shop and fixed for sure, I only do minor body work, I am a "tuner" working with the mechanical side not the body repair.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HCivicSi23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What should I do to fix this? Cut and weld a whole new right side frame rail as well as a new upper wheel house assembly? I also figured I would need a new radiator support, all that and paint.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HCivicSi23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The car will be taken to a body shop and fixed for sure, I only do minor body work, I am a "tuner" working with the mechanical side not the body repair. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You just answered your own question, take it to a body shop. It's going to need pulled, so it will need to be put on a frame machine, measured and pulled back to factory specs. Cutting off and putting on a new frame rail, putting on a new rad support is something an experienced body tech. should be doing, not a "tuner".
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WihaSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You just answered your own question, take it to a body shop. It's going to need pulled, so it will need to be put on a frame machine, measured and pulled back to factory specs. Cutting off and putting on a new frame rail, putting on a new rad support is something an experienced body tech. should be doing, not a "tuner".</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats why I am taking it to a body shop. What would you do to fix these damages exactly? Has anyone seen this before?
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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Well I work at a body shop as an estimator so I'm sure I've seen it before, but I don't see any pics of your cars damage...so I'm not too sure of what all needs to be done.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WihaSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I work at a body shop as an estimator so I'm sure I've seen it before, but I don't see any pics of your cars damage...so I'm not too sure of what all needs to be done.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have pictures. I'll post them a little later.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HCivicSi23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have pictures. I'll post them a little later. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, cool.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WihaSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Ok, cool.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is the radiator support include both head light housings? My headlight craked, but the metal around it is mishapend as well, it appears to be one peace with teh radiator support?

It appears that the whole assembly is called the front bulhead. What do you know about this?
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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What year is your Civic 99-00 Si? If it is, I just checked my estimating system and you can order the headlamp pockets seperate ($104.43/pocket) or you can order the whole rad support ($230.50) and it comes with upper tie bar, lower tie bar, center support and both headlamp pockets.
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WihaSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What year is your Civic 99-00 Si? If it is, I just checked my estimating system and you can order the headlamp pockets seperate ($104.43/pocket) or you can order the whole rad support ($230.50) and it comes with upper tie bar, lower tie bar, center support and both headlamp pockets.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would deffinatly need the passenger side pocket, however it's debatable weather or not you would need the radiator support to be replaced. I'll have to upload the pictures later today so you can see the damage. I know whats damaged, but only a professionals eye will know exactly what needs to be done.
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