Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
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Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
Ok i have typical quarter panel rust like most Hondas here in the Midwest, especially in Wisconsin, the snow and the salt. But mine is horrible to a degree where it puts me down, now i picked up the shell cheap, Rust got worse and worse, and i want to repair it.
I order repair panels and the whole rocker for the bottom i need more panels as well.
The question is, should i fix it?
I order repair panels and the whole rocker for the bottom i need more panels as well.
The question is, should i fix it?
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If you can find a clean shell, it'd be less work to just combine the two to create a new, rust-free car. Then get it rustproofed.
In my circles we call rust in those spots Honda cancer, because Hondas always start rotting there.
In my circles we call rust in those spots Honda cancer, because Hondas always start rotting there.
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
Looks like fun to me LOL. Seriously though, if it's a car you don't necessarily care too much about (like a winter beater) I'd say go for it. If it's going to be a car you intend to keep for a long time and use day to day, it might be worth it to look for a cleaner body to start with. That's my input anyway.
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
Looks like fun to me LOL. Seriously though, if it's a car you don't necessarily care too much about (like a winter beater) I'd say go for it. If it's going to be a car you intend to keep for a long time and use day to day, it might be worth it to look for a cleaner body to start with. That's my input anyway.
Kinda thought the same.
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
If you're paying someone to do the work, hell no. If you're doing it yourself, probably still no. My Si is actually worse than that. But I did fix one side so it looks half decent. It's a lot of work, and it will pop back through within a year. If it was me I'd probably just buy something rust free and start over.
Btw you can use the rear doors from a '92 - '95 sedan to make the bottom of the quarters.
My Si where I fixed it, used the bottom of a door skin as described above to make the quarter from the side molding down along with a new wheel arch.
Btw you can use the rear doors from a '92 - '95 sedan to make the bottom of the quarters.
My Si where I fixed it, used the bottom of a door skin as described above to make the quarter from the side molding down along with a new wheel arch.
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
wow thats pretty extensive, mine rust is starting to get just a little worse. ive been trying to keep that salt off of it like crazy but the roads are covered
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
Around here we find shells 500-1000 all day long so if you can find a shell cheaper than repairing it then why wouldn't you? I paid $1,000 for a stock 94 vx (complete car) with a rear qtr. than needed replaced and clear coat pealing.
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For those prices you could fly down to someplace in Georgia, take a short vacation, then drive your donor car back.
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
Btw, the doors are probably bad too. Pull the rubber back around the mirrors, chances are there will be very little underneath.
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
No. Salt was the cause of this. The whole point of that piece of rubber everyone seems to hate is to keep the paint from chipping and exposing the bare metal so it doesn't rust. It can trap salt but this sort of thing is inevitable either way.
In any case it looks bad, and it's only going to look worse the further into it you go.
In any case it looks bad, and it's only going to look worse the further into it you go.
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
The car was around here, Dealership that it came from was here in Milwaukee.
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No. Salt was the cause of this. The whole point of that piece of rubber everyone seems to hate is to keep the paint from chipping and exposing the bare metal so it doesn't rust. It can trap salt but this sort of thing is inevitable either way.
In any case it looks bad, and it's only going to look worse the further into it you go.
In any case it looks bad, and it's only going to look worse the further into it you go.
How can you prevent this kind of rust?
Also where is that first pic taken on the car?
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
Lots and lots of undercoating, the oil based stuff, not that black tar crap (the tar stuff is good when the car is brand new, but if you put it on later it will trap any existing rust underneath it)
Up around the windshield. That black thing on the left is the antenna block off plate. Incidentally that spot needs to be sandblasted.
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It helps a lot, but if you have salt you will have rust.
Lots and lots of undercoating, the oil based stuff, not that black tar crap (the tar stuff is good when the car is brand new, but if you put it on later it will trap any existing rust underneath it)
Up around the windshield. That black thing on the left is the antenna block off plate. Incidentally that spot needs to be sandblasted.
Lots and lots of undercoating, the oil based stuff, not that black tar crap (the tar stuff is good when the car is brand new, but if you put it on later it will trap any existing rust underneath it)
Up around the windshield. That black thing on the left is the antenna block off plate. Incidentally that spot needs to be sandblasted.
I guess also you could wash it...every 3 months or so...and wax ever 6months. I mean its inevitably going to happen. But if you take care of it and keep up with waxing and washing it.
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
Generally speaking when I wash my car in the winter, it looks almost as bad by the time I get back from the car wash 10 minutes away. Needless to say I almost never wash my car in the winter. Actually I almost never wash my car at all.
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
This is a unitized structure. Pillars and rockers are multiple layers with specific locations for sectioning procedures. The cancer you see on the outside most defiantly spread to the inner more important panels. The quarter is also not just a quarter, that entire inner wheel house is rotting. Windshields are STRUCTURAL, you can't even paint the pinch weld flange where the windshield mates with some mfgs, let alone see rust forming around your windshield.
Scrap the car, the only way to fix that is the right way....which would be getting a entire uniside on both sides basically, and everything else.
Scrap the car, the only way to fix that is the right way....which would be getting a entire uniside on both sides basically, and everything else.
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
This is a unitized structure. Pillars and rockers are multiple layers with specific locations for sectioning procedures. The cancer you see on the outside most defiantly spread to the inner more important panels. The quarter is also not just a quarter, that entire inner wheel house is rotting. Windshields are STRUCTURAL, you can't even paint the pinch weld flange where the windshield mates with some mfgs, let alone see rust forming around your windshield.
Scrap the car, the only way to fix that is the right way....which would be getting a entire uniside on both sides basically, and everything else.
Scrap the car, the only way to fix that is the right way....which would be getting a entire uniside on both sides basically, and everything else.
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
I would fix it, making something look good at the end is where you'll pat yourself on the back. Just spray oil on in the inner panels and under coat it while keeping grease everywhere will keep the rust from growing.
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Re: Horrible Rust, Repairing, is it worth it?
Defiantly fixable, only if you are ok with parking it for a little bit. beggars cant be choosers up here in Wisconsin.
I got lucky and found a rust free hatch in neenah.
I got lucky and found a rust free hatch in neenah.