SoFresh

I know there are some WA peeps with welded in cages, where are you guys getting them done? You buying pre-bent pipes from Summit Racing or Jegs, etc? or just having the shop fab them up for you. Also, what are you guys paying $$ at these shops, also if you list how much you paid, post up how many pts. your cage has.

So I'm prepping the car for paint. I want to go with an all-welded in 4 point roll cage, with a harness bar and "X" bar connecting the rear well bars up to the top of the main hoop... also want a front traction bar welded in as well as a rear trunk "X" brace, using all the same diameter piping.

I have my own welder if that is the case, just need the pipe bent, and notched.... I really don't want to have to go find a drill press and notching guide to do it myself lol.

Thanks in advance!
-Daniel

SoFresh

This is a site I have found with the best prices so far:

http://autoweldchassis.com/rbc.ivnu

For a 4 pt. cage, notched and ready to be welded in, the price is $152.95... before the added on bars and additional notching I'd need.

Anyone got any better sites/online stores with better or comparable prices? I'm aiming for local so I don't have to deal with shipping... plus it would be easier to just go in and explain my additional add-ons in person.

Evs-One

eh, ERW tubing which is legal for NHRA I guess, which is obsolete for road racing cages. If it doesn't meet spec for NASA/SCCA, I wouldn't trust it.

Get a Kirk Racing or Autopower weld in if you want to do it yourself.

Otherwise, my good friend owns a fab shop down here, uses bend tech pro software, top of the line Tube Shark bender, and certified welding...

JaysHatcH

that price seems awesome, to have a shop do it your going to be paying more for the labor of them to weld it. If your comfortable with your welding to do it youself I'd say buy it and weld it yourself. I've heard custom roll cages costing upwards of $500 bucks for the cheap ones.

Got traction

SpeedFactory does them, and they use Art Morrison cages. Call the shop and have them shoot you a quote!

reactiondc2

Art Morrison makes some of the tightest fitting prebent weld in cages....

SoFresh

I just checked out: http://www.artmorrison.com/rollcages.php and I am diggin those cages.

Garage 808 Hatch

they must have gotten better. the kit i bought from them, fit like ***

Evs-One

Art Morrison, JEGS, Summit- all of those "cages" aka death traps are garbage. Anybody using those for safety are just living off the Darwin theory.

Why people cheap out on safety devices just boggles my mind.

DOM tubing, proper fitment, proper design, and proper welding...what a real cage needs.

No OTS cage will fit good and the materials they use are industry minimum...

Evs-One

Honestly man, just get an Autopower or Kirk racing 4 point bolt in race bar- has the diagonal support and harness bar. This is a MINIMUM....anything less is just stupid.

Garage 808 Hatch

Art does atleast have the option of Chrome Moly tubing. although **** tig welding an entire cage unless you are building for a specific purpose, not cool factor

Evs-One

Yeah...talk about a pita, plus you're supposed to heat treat the cage after welding? I'm not too sure...you'll never see a RR car with a cromo cage- just too much hassle

SoFresh

I was thinking about just buying a pre-done bolt in cage. I guess I could always just have the "x" bar added on the two rear wheel well support bars...

SoFresh

I found this Integra with an Autopower cage (or so it says...), notice the rear diagonal "X" bar... I can't seem to find a Civic Autopower cage such as this one..



Where is everyone ordering their Autopower cages from? I found numerous places online, any local places? I prefer to support a local shop if they carry them.

Got traction

your doing it wrong

Got traction

if a NHRA official certifies it to 8.50/180mph, i dont see how its a garbage death trap.

C9A1L1L

It looks like an AP unit with the X bars added in...

reactiondc2

lol...its funny that people think any cage that isnt road race legal is garbage...put in a cage that suits the purpose of the car...

Garage 808 Hatch

I most def was not doing it wrong. It was just plain ***. But that was like 6 years ago

Evs-One

you're doing it wrong

If you guys want to cheap out on the most critical safety system in your car after your seating system, go ahead...

I just don't see why you would risk it...it's legal for drag racing, but that sanction is also VERY lax on their safety standards...

Evs-One

which is always-
best material(DOM), best fitment(every car will fit slightly different, but I guess a 4" gap between the bars and the chassis is ok), and best design(depending on your needs. it doesn't take but one bad cut to throw the entire fitment off)...all of which is not possible with a cheap off the shelf cage...

Evs-One

OP:

Safe Drives is local to the PNW and he's a big Autopower distributor

Garage 808 Hatch

Lax my ***. Have you seen the **** We have to do and wear to be legal??

Evs-One

I should say lax when it comes to the roll cages...you got a ton of other stuff I know..

I just don't see how they require such minimal cages for such fast cars....

runsfromdacops

its all how you install them.they leave them long so you can adjust the fit to your car. i love my AM cage.tightest cage i have seen yet

SF can do the install for you.i know ricky has done allot of them so he could have it done fast/tight