I want a retrofit but I am poor!

 

As I said, you could find a whole oem retrofit setup for less than 150.

 

i think purple lights are pretty ricey. Its just that civics with projectors are considered ricey.

 

Damm all this BULL over some retro's against PnP's? I like retro but to much bull and money. Rather spend for motor parts than lights. 100 hid kit is nice. Please provide pics to fight against the point of PnP's suck and retro's are better. Pics to back all this up would be nice.

 

All from hidplanet (and recopied from our mod's sticky):

Scion tC with HID kit in stock reflector headlights (glare out the wazoo):


Same Scion tC with TSX projector retrofit


9004 4300K HID kit in 97 Maxima stock reflector housings


94 Maxima @ same location with TSX retrofit:


For less than 100 dollars more than your aftermarket downgrades, you could have output like this:


*borrowed from jvx's website.

Now tell me that the 100 dollars you're paying for crap kits isn't as you put it, "bull."

 

that looks so good!
you wouldnt happen to know what parts they used would you??

pnps suck. plain and simple i have them them they suck...
sure they make street signs way brighter, but the point of hids is to light up suff in front of YOUR car...
pnp kits blind people, they are ILLEGAL and the light is scarted all over the road, and half the time its un useable light... retro fits are totaly legal and all the light that comes out is in front of you and its useable.

 

If you'd rather spend money on engine parts, then just go with Philips Xtreme Power or Osram Night Breakers if you have H4 bulbs, or Toshiba HIR 9011 bulbs to replace 9006 bulbs. Please do not use a crap HID kit that will blind everyone and have very little usable light.

See the sticky at the top of this forum showing why HID kits are terrible.

 

Do you really need to see pictures to prove that a kit that cost less than one OEM D2S bulb is ****? There is a reason these kits are dirt cheap, they are made with inferior parts, they have no R&D and more than likely they are just reverse engineered. I actually want to buy a set just so I can take one in my lab and see what kind of shitty electronics they actually use.

 

you dont get how electronics work do you?
its easy to copy and knock off electronics, because the markup on name brand **** like that is astronomical. IT costs them just a few $ to make the whole damn thing. The bulbs are probably more expensive than the whole rest of the kit put together.

 

lol I'm an electrical engineer, I've probably forgotten more out electronics than you will ever know. This markup you talk about pays for the engineers that designed the electronics and testing that you get by buying an OEM/name brand kit. Your kit is just a copy and probably a poor one at that. It isn't as easy as you think to copy a design either.

Also if you think that are electronics such as op-amps, micro-controllers, resistors, capacitors, etc. are the same you are sadly mistaken. Not all electronics are made equal and I bet this kits use inferior parts to save money. I guarantee that most of these **** kits are reverse engineered and have little to know R&D testing them before they are sold. That is why people complain of the ballast going bad within a year or interfering with the radio signal. Have fun with your **** kit but don't try to tell me what I know.

 

congrats at being a electrical engineer. I used to build electronic **** when i was a kid just for fun, and I always build my own computers (hardly electrical anyway), I know not all parts are made equal as there are cheaper and inferior versions of anything from chips, to capacitors. But the kit is still good quality and has lasted my friend a while and the guy is very good about giving replacement parts if one breaks (even if its something stupid). Most of the markup on bigger brands is not for the engineers, its for the brand. Look at a buisiness model and you will see what I am talking about. Also in the auction it says that the kits are used in some OEM cars in south america and asia. This could also be the reason for their low cost as OEM parts are always cheap to make with lots of R&D that is backed by the company. If he is getting them @ cost then its easy to sell them @ that price.

 

I agree not all of mark up is for the engineers design but a large part of it is. I didn't say all HID kits are **** because obviously one might have a good design but just come with low quality bulbs. The kit you have might be the exception because it might actually be OEM in SA or Asia but how good can they really look if it is just a plug and play kit with no projector and cheap bulbs? That is probably the bigger problem than low quality parts/bulbs is that people install these in stock headlights and think they will light up the road when all they do is blind oncoming traffic.

 

So you guys are saying this looks like ****?

 

Your picture shows absolutely nothing, if you are going to try to prove a PnP kit looks good a least show the cut off like the pictures above. Otherwise I will just assume it has horrible cut off with a **** ton of glare.

 

ha get some 30,000Ks...extreme blue!! thats what i got...so blue cop pulled me over and said they are too blue

 

Now thats the **** i was looking for. Did you say 30k? Damm. Im gonna buy myself a set and if i do get pulled over ill switch back to the ones i have now. Got any more pics?

And by the way what kit is that?

 

Those are tenon hid kits off some guy on ebay. I get them for 60 dollars because i buy them from him all the time. but i think he normally sells them like 90. wholesale-hid is the store name. 30000K is the temp for extreme blue hids.

 

See thats the blue i want.....but im concerned as to getting pulled over. Was it a fix it ticket?

 

How extremely retarded. 30,000K light is not even in the visible spectrum.

Those might be 10,000K at the most, and that's pushing it. And they look retarded as hell. And the Evo from the Onex website looks retarded as hell. If the light on the ground is blue, it looks retarded as hell. It's about as useful as 100W PIAA colored halogen bulbs.

It's funny how years ago you had all these blue halogen bulbs to try to copy HID headlights, then actual HID kits came out in the same 4300K as the OEM HID. Then people were like "well damn this doesn't really look like OEM HID, so let's make these HID bulbs BLUE COLORED AS WELL!!!!!!"

I chuckle at how sellers will put ANYTHING on a damn package to make a buck. And it's even more funny that buyers will actually FALL for that crap and buy the POS merchandise.

 

that **** isnt 30k at all. The kits that are supposedly 30k are some super hot pink HID's, which look like **** btw. That **** is barely 10k, its not dark blue, its a lighter blue.

 

first of all visible spectrum? wth are you talking bout? the visible spectrum is measured in lambda (unit of measurement for wavelength) and the visible spectrum is roughly from 400 lambda to 750 lambda..so wth does the unit K have to do anything with visible spectrum?

 

i was wondering the same thing. Since when is color temp have to do with visible spectrum.

 

Wtf are you talking about? Lambda is not a unit of measurement, the wavelength of light is a unit of length and is usually in nanometers (nm).

Also it would be better if you actually knew what you are talking about before you try to flame someone. As the color temperature gets larger there is less visible light. With a lower temperature you will have a warm color and as you go higher the color gets cooler. That is why OEM HID use 4300 K because it is in between and is a white light, thus giving you the most visible light. 30000 K may be in the visible light spectrum but it is at the very end of the spectrum so there will be very little usable light and would be better off using candles for headlights.

 

What i read here is that no matter what your POS retro investment has to be better than anything else only cuz you payed for that ****. Like people who buy halo lights i got nothing against them dont like them in my taste. But then you get people stating **** like you guys. If you wanted "halo lights you shouldve bought a BMW". Or like me saying you guys wanted projectors so bad why didnt you buy a car model with them stock. Wtf?

 

i guess thats why cars with Pink HID;s dont seem very bright.