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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 06:41 PM
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Before I get to the question, a little bit of background info (which may or may not be important so just skip down if you feel like it).

I know very very very little about electrical stuff/wiring/how circuits work. In fact, during this project I learned what relay was so please bear with me. About a month ago I bought fog lights thinking it wouldn't be this complicated. From the beginning I had every intention to have my friend help me with it though, (who's basing his career in electricity so he's uber good with this stuff) so I wasn't worried about it. We got to it and spent the first day putting the lights in, then the 2nd day we ran all the wires and got 99% of it done. The wires were ran though the firewall. The grounds are in place and everything is done except for a single plug.

Before putting the wires in the car, we hooked it up to a 12v power source that he made (yup he made his own and it's sweet cause it can be set to different voltages and has a display and everything... but back on topic). The whole system worked perfectly except I had no idea how and even he thought it was strange that it worked the way it did. It was something like 3 wires connected to one end and only 1 to the other. Anyway, not important (I hope). So with his help all of the wires were ran from the lights, through the firewall on the passenger side, then to the back of the head unit area.

Because I have a sunroof, heated mirrors and I didn't want to lose my CC button, I opted to have the switch placed just above the cup holders in one of the two plastic pop-out pieces. No problems there and I'm only mentioning it because the ground wires were hooked up in places behind there.

Anyway, to the question now. The last plug to be plugged in is the "ignition" plug (and the fog lights wont work without it). According to the DIY on civicforums.com (here) I should have two plugs to plug in under the steering wheel (fuse box?) but I only have one (2nd last picture in the DIY). I doubt that we did anything wrong because my friend knew what he was doing and we had it working on his kitchen floor, so I have no reason to doubt him. And, it seems like every DIY for this is different so there must be multiple ways to get this working. I'm not sure where to plug in the final plug. Here's a picture of it, and where we already tried to plug it in. Note that we had to to expose the connection in the fog light plug because it's so cheap that it wouldn't get a good connection, so that's why the metal is out of the brown plastic.



The fogs worked when plugged into here except that the illumination light on the fog light switch was always on (come to think of it, I didn't take the key out of the ignition so I don't know if it's on or off when the key is out). By illumination light I don't mean the light on the switch to say the fogs are on, I mean the light the lights up the switch for night time driving.

Sorry for the long thread but I hate leaving out details then having to answer questions for the first 10 posts. Also I would just finish the job with my friend but it's hard to find free time for both of us and right now he's in another province for the week.

So where should I plug the plug in and god please tell me I don't have to rewire anything because I won't be able to.

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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 01:07 AM
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Default Re: Fog light wiring issue

I need the following details:

Year/make/model of car.

What brand foglights.

Link to the DIY you mentioned.
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 01:38 AM
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all you have to do is hook that wire up to the parking lights. not ignition. if hooked up to the ignition, the switch will always be illuminated, versus if you hook it up to the parking light wire, it will only light up the switch when you turn on the lights. and hopefully your using a relay with those foglights....
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by White95SiHB
I need the following details:

Year/make/model of car.

What brand foglights.

Link to the DIY you mentioned.
2005 Civic sedan Lx (Canadian). They're "Winjet" brand foglights bought from a local shop that was having a sale.

Link is here. Sorry forgot to add the link.

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all you have to do is hook that wire up to the parking lights. not ignition. if hooked up to the ignition, the switch will always be illuminated, versus if you hook it up to the parking light wire, it will only light up the switch when you turn on the lights. and hopefully your using a relay with those foglights....
Hmm that does make sense and I remember my friend mentioning it. But, the wire has an "ignition" label on it (that's spelled wrong... so I'm not going to trust it over somebody else). And yes there's a relay (exactly how it's hooked up in the system I couldn't explain but there's one)

Where is the parking light wire/switch that I need to connect it to?
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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ok see the picture you posted. were the arrow is pointing, right to the left of it is another slot (i think it has 3 or 4 little pins) get a test light and if i remember right it the pin on the right. test light should only give you power when the lights are turned on.
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rickyracer
ok see the picture you posted. were the arrow is pointing, right to the left of it is another slot (i think it has 3 or 4 little pins) get a test light and if i remember right it the pin on the right. test light should only give you power when the lights are turned on.
Ok thanks, I'll try that tomorrow. Nearly 2am here. If I'm understanding you right... I only connect it to the pin on the right? Doesn't really make sense but then again I'm horrible at electrical .

I'll update tomorrow
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 09:51 PM
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Ok thanks, I'll try that tomorrow. Nearly 2am here. If I'm understanding you right... I only connect it to the pin on the right? Doesn't really make sense but then again I'm horrible at electrical .

I'll update tomorrow
it's becuase each pin does something different. the pin on the right should be the parking light singal. your just gonna have to find a speaker terminal connect that has a plastic shield to prevent it from touching the other pins, or if you get get access to a set of speaker wires that come in the box when you buy new car speakers. they have the right connector on the end of the cable. there is always 1 cable that is smaller then the other.
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rickyracer
it's becuase each pin does something different. the pin on the right should be the parking light singal. your just gonna have to find a speaker terminal connect that has a plastic shield to prevent it from touching the other pins, or if you get get access to a set of speaker wires that come in the box when you buy new car speakers. they have the right connector on the end of the cable. there is always 1 cable that is smaller then the other.
Ah ok. I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about with the speaker wire... I'll think of something to connect it to the wire without touching other pins. Thank you again.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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THANK YOU SO MUCH rickyracer! They work perfectly now and I'm SO happy because I had been trying to get his working right for so long now. If I ever win the lottery you'll get a nice big cheque lol

I ended up using an alligator clip with a rubber protector over it so it's clipped to the pin but not touching the one beside it.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 08:10 PM
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THANK YOU SO MUCH rickyracer! They work perfectly now and I'm SO happy because I had been trying to get his working right for so long now. If I ever win the lottery you'll get a nice big cheque lol

I ended up using an alligator clip with a rubber protector over it so it's clipped to the pin but not touching the one beside it.
no problem...glad i could help you.
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 03:46 PM
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Lights aren't working anymore. Alligator clip was still plugged in properly, the switch itself still lights up properly but the fogs don't. Can't check relay and fuse until tomorrow.

Any ideas?
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