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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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i already searched but couldn't find my answer:

Are all engine swaps illegal?
Will a swap only be illegal if its jdm?
Is there anyway to make a swap emmissions legal?
These questions are mainly posed to people in New York. We have inspections similar to California, including visual. I'm assuming the only way to pass is to leave some cash in the engine bay. Thanks-
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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cali is hella strict from what ive heard....rule of thumb:
engine needs to be the same year or newer as the car its going into.
some jdm engines dont have all the smog sensors as the us models
check with our state for the specifics....i know some states dont really care, but some will give it to you in the culo.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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Default Re: swap legallity (makS)

i know the engine has to be the same year or newer but i was wondering if anyone knew whether the engine has to be the same model number. Will a jdm engine with the emmissions equipment retrofitted pass visuals?
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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search under this topic you will find lots of posts regarding this.
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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not all swaps are legal..... if you swap, chances are you can pass emissions with little or no modification (depends on what engine).... but if you want a state ref to take a look and try to get a bar sticker then you might have a problem depending on engine and setup...
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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in Cali, if you want to get a bar sticker you will need to have the engine bone stock with all the sensors in the correct place, you can pass jdm motors if all the sensors are to u.s. spec. and the motor has to be the same yr of the car or newer.
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 07:43 AM
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From what I've read, the engine has to be the same year or newer. It has to have all the emissions sensors still intact and working. If it is a JDM motor you can still pass it but you will need all the usdm counterparts sensors and ecu.
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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-The motor has to be the year of the car or newer
-It has to have all smog equipment
-It can be jdm or usdm
-You also can have header, intake, exhaust or anything that has a carb number when you go to get it bard

That is all I know of that you need
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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i have a 98 F23 and i'm planning on swapping a 98 or newer H22, where can I get the smog equipment to legalize a jDM H22?
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DxTrix &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-The motor has to be the year of the car or newer
-It has to have all smog equipment
-It can be jdm or usdm
-You also can have header, intake, exhaust or anything that has a carb number when you go to get it bard

That is all I know of that you need</TD></TR></TABLE>

Everyone always gets this one wrong. There are exceptions to the "same year or newer" rule. I have a 92 B17 in my 93 CX.. The ref knew it was a 92, told me "you know thats a 92 engine right?". I still have my ref sticker. They will not just throw you out because the engine year isn't same or newer then the chassis.
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Old Feb 5, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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Default Re: swap legallity (Hybrid93Eg)

maks said hella and he's not from cali.. haha
i just think he's not from cali cuz he said i heard cali is strict..
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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i got this from someone i know....

"in order to get a newer h22 into our 6th gen accord.....we HAVE to go obd1....so you would pass emissions, but since smog tests are done by pluging the computer into the car.....it wouldnt work.....so ud pretty much fail"

is this true?
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ..::Ken::.. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got this from someone i know....

"in order to get a newer h22 into our 6th gen accord.....we HAVE to go obd1....so you would pass emissions, but since smog tests are done by pluging the computer into the car.....it wouldnt work.....so ud pretty much fail"

is this true?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You have to stick with whatever emissions group the car is in. You cannot convert an OBD-2 car to OBD-1. It will not pass. It must be the same as the current emissions platform, or newer.
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Old Feb 7, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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so i have a obd1 jdm b18c in my obd0 DA, the ecu is obd0 but all the smog stuff is there. will i pass BAR?
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Old Feb 7, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You have to stick with whatever emissions group the car is in. You cannot convert an OBD-2 car to OBD-1. It will not pass. It must be the same as the current emissions platform, or newer.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the F23 is OBD II and the 97+ H22 is OBDII , so it should be able to pass BAR standards right?
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Old Feb 7, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ..::Ken::.. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the F23 is OBD II and the 97+ H22 is OBDII , so it should be able to pass BAR standards right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes.
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Old Feb 7, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18c3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so i have a obd1 jdm b18c in my obd0 DA, the ecu is obd0 but all the smog stuff is there. will i pass BAR?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, you would need to convert the car to OBD-1 in order to pass BAR inspection.
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