Ok here is my problem i just swap out the sohc for a B18a1, but now i have to get the car smoged and i having a problem doing so. Now i know i have a few option, like: swap back the old motor or find a smog guy that like money(and don't care for the law) or say **** it and sell the car and get a Yamy R1........So if any one else has a better idea's PLEASE let me know. I will do anything that will keep this motor in my car, and how and in the HELL does anyone else swap out a motor for a hybrid and still get tags......I DON'T GET IT.

 

need more info as to what motor is what model and year car.

 

WOW you got me there with the yr.(sorry) it a 1998 Civic DX 5 spd. and the motor is up there its a B18a1 from a 90-93 Intg. LS & GS (not sure on the GS). Well there you go sorry, need more info then that let me know......

 

tough one as you put a older motor in the car so you can not go to the ref, you either need to swap out motors or pay someone who is willing to look the other way on this.

 

If you would have spent more money and got the OBDII B18b motor, you would be able to pass emissions.

you = fux0rd

 

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I agree you screwed yourself here.

 

I hate to just add another negative comment, but here goes;

The basic rule is that you can't install an engine that is older than the chassis. There is some flexibility to that, but in your case, you are major league out of luck.

Wes (carb certified B18c in 89 hatchback) Vann

 

Thx for the help guys, well seeing as im F*%ked, will see what happens when i get the smog again. Will see if i have to see a ref..if i don't have to see one do think i have a chance to pass??? If not anyone want or need a B18a1......lol dlkfhalihdpqwoiytho[ierwh. Just more problems i have with this car......either way thx help again guys...

 

Ok so if i get a B16a2 (si) i swap that in and pass smog with no problem right, even if i have to see a ref. Now that would be a newer motor in my car and should have no problem right? Input i need more input.......

 

as long as the engine is the same year model or newer, and not a small-truck engine (i.e. CRV engines), and keep OEM emissions equipment, you will pass.

now, does anyone know how often californian's have to get smog tests?

 

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This is not always true. In fact, you CAN put an older motor in the car. Wanna see my ref sticker to prove it? So long as the engine was also manufactured in the same year as your car and had IDENTICAL emissions equipment, then its valid. This however, would be an invalid swap considering the emissions change from the 90-93 year to the 98 year.

 

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Yes, that would be perfectly fine.

 

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now, does anyone know how often californian's have to get smog tests?</TD></TR></TABLE>

4 years on newer vehicles... every two years after that. Every two years on used or "old" vehicles also.

 

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This is not always true. In fact, you CAN put an older motor in the car. Wanna see my ref sticker to prove it? So long as the engine was also manufactured in the same year as your car and had IDENTICAL emissions equipment, then its valid. This however, would be an invalid swap considering the emissions change from the 90-93 year to the 98 year. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i dont get it.pls clarify further. i really would like to learn more info on this. in my situation i swap a 94 gsr motor in my 95 civic coupe. i know it should of been same year of vehicle or newer but a later found out the motor was a 94 model when the swap was completed

 

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i dont get it.pls clarify further. i really would like to learn more info on this. in my situation i swap a 94 gsr motor in my 95 civic coupe. i know it should of been same year of vehicle or newer but a later found out the motor was a 94 model when the swap was completed </TD></TR></TABLE>

Your fine. Its a legal swap by all means. Why? Because in 1995 the B18C1 was manufactured using the exact same emissions equipment and the engine was identitcal. They won't bark at it. I had a 1992 B17 in my 93 hatch. The ref knew for sure it was a 1992 engine, he even came and asked me if I knew what year it was. I was afraid of not being able to pass it by the ref also.. but thats when I learned that its ok as long as the emissions equipment didn't change.

 

so your saying since 94 and 95 model are both obd 1, my motor can be bar for legality. correct me if im wrong but didnt the ca gov website stated regarding a legal swap, an you can only install with same year of vehicle or newer. thats what i know and according to most people i hear.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Humble1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so your saying since 94 and 95 model are both obd 1, my motor can be bar for legality. correct me if im wrong but didnt the ca gov website stated regarding a legal swap, an you can only install with same year of vehicle or newer. thats what i know and according to most people i hear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am not going to sit here and say this over and over. It does me no good. I told you what came from the mouth of the referee. Do you really think the government is going to put all the loopholes up on the website? I don't think they would have the time or desire to type out all the little "but if you have this then...." garbage that would take. Either you believe what I said, or you think I am a moron. Either way, I have a sticker on my car, and its for a 1992 B17 in a 93 CX. Anyway you want to look at it, I think that says a lot more then what you may have been told or read. Don't you?

 

first off relax and take a chill pill.
secondly, i am not flaming you in any way if somehow you misundertood what i was tryin to say so i apologize for that. all im tryin to get info from you or anyone else in this board, is if there is any way i can get around my motor bar certified due to the fact my motor is a 94 model and my civic is 95.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Humble1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first off relax and take a chill pill.
secondly, i am not flaming you in any way if somehow you misundertood what i was tryin to say so i apologize for that. all im tryin to get info from you or anyone else in this board, is if there is any way i can get around my motor bar certified due to the fact my motor is a 94 model and my civic is 95. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Its very clear to me what you are trying to do. I have told you you don't have to "get around" taking it to the ref. It should pass no problems. Again, if you want to listen to me or not, thats another story. I am not pissed or anything.. Just get a little flabergasted why people would ask something and then not want to hear what others have to say.

 

Well thanks for all the help with the swap info and seeing as im Fucked im going to drop the org. motor back in. So that leaves another to play with, so im going to find a 90 si hb if can and do a turbo ls/vtec.........so thxs again!