E-lude78

I have an 88 civic hatch running OBD1 with a B17A motor. My question is what materials/procedures are required to swap to a Type R motor?

Quik Chris

Ehhhhh. Whats the motivation to do it? I wouldn't want to be the shmuck to do this swap.

All your mounts in there except for the tranny one are fine. I'm not sure if places sell mounts itemized like you would need, I think you might need a whole mount kit, which will be in the $600 range (HASport).

One thing you could do to combat that last problem is keep the B17A tranny on there, and sell the type R tranny. Why would you do this? The Type R tranny/clutch is hydrolic, the chasis runs of a cable tranny/clutch. You can buy conversion kits, but IMHO, it makes things a mess=no bueno.

Then you'll need the wiring harness with the Type R motor, and a OBD-II __> OBD-I harness converter.

Like I said, keep the B17A Tranny, that way, you'll have no axle issues either, put the Type R tranny in, and you'll have to get custom axles. The tranny isn't worth the headache.

Slopoke

Im not swap genius, but I'll throw in my 2 cents.

I'm not 100% sure about the mounts so I will leave that to someone else.

I also think it would be easier (and cheaper) to keep the b17 tranny.
I have a good friend who bought a Place Racing cable to hydro conversion (for a type R tranny in his DA) and hated it!!!
It took almost all your strength to push down the clutch pedal and the conversion piece actually rubbed on his 4-1 header. He eventually paid a shop to build him a completely custom unit.


Also if you already have a b17 running obd1, then you should be able to use the harness that is currently on the car, if you put the obd1 distributor, injectors, and alternator on the type R motor.



[Modified by Slopoke, 12:48 AM 1/7/2003]

Quik Chris

Yeah, now that I think more about, you could take what Slopoke said and add to that the B17A oil pump, thats different too.

I think that should take care of things right there.

E-lude78

Obviously I'd keep the YS1 cable tranny but why would I need to retain the B17 oil pump? I believe the R oil pump is good enough.


[Modified by Mista B-one-seven, 1:49 PM 1/7/2003]


[Modified by Mista B-one-seven, 1:50 PM 1/7/2003]

Quik Chris

OBD-I and OBD-II oil pumps are different, unless you wire OBD-II. The Type R motor has the CKS Crank position/speed sensor mounted on top of the pump, and has a mounting location for the pickup. The B17A has the CKS in the distributor, that would set an enging code.