My Hybrid Build F22a1 bottom end H23a1 head!
10-28-2005, 07:59 AM
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My Hybrid Build F22a1 bottom end H23a1 head!
This is my project build finally its moving again as ive been out of work for a while. I got the block back from the machine shop getting it re-honed as it was left sitting for a little bit after the machine work was done before.
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Arias Forged Pistons
Rods (stock and Eagle)
ARP Head Studs
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Arias Forged Pistons
Rods (stock and Eagle)
ARP Head Studs
10-28-2005, 09:34 AM
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Re: My Hybrid Build F22a1 bottom end H23a1 head! (PirateMcFred)
Its going to be turbo. i want to run @15-20 psi on it. Just be a weekend/track driver. the pistons are 8.5:1 when using a stock head. so using a h23a1 head should raise it that much. Its going into 1990 accord.
10-28-2005, 09:43 AM
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well the block i had already. the head and intake manifold i bought for 50$
So if i was just gonna run this stock thats all it would have costed.
This build:
block - free
head - $50
pistons and rings - $340
rods - $250
bore the block to 86mm and re-hone - $100
Head Studs - $115
So if i was just gonna run this stock thats all it would have costed.
This build:
block - free
head - $50
pistons and rings - $340
rods - $250
bore the block to 86mm and re-hone - $100
Head Studs - $115
10-28-2005, 10:57 AM
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Re: My Hybrid Build F22a1 bottom end H23a1 head! (bleewdragon)
hey man thanks for posting up in my thread, im glad to see your build is coming along.. that block looks nice and clean.. are you doing anything to the crank balancing? what are you going to rev it to? what year f22 block is that?
10-28-2005, 11:11 AM
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Re: My Hybrid Build F22a1 bottom end H23a1 head! (prelittlelude)
No i havent done anything to the crank other that have it cleaned. Im going to us a light crank pully and lighten fly. and the block is from a 90 accord.
10-28-2005, 11:24 AM
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Re: My Hybrid Build F22a1 bottom end H23a1 head! (bleewdragon)
the lightened flywheel is fine, but the stock crank pully has somewhat of a dampener installed in it, i would suggest keeping the stock crank pully..
what are you going to rev this to?
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im on a 96 f22 block with h22 head, stock f22 pistons, and i decked the block 30 thousanths so im runing a 9:1 cr and boosting 9-10 psi.. its ALOT of fun
i can't imagin what 20 would feel like!!
what are you going to rev this to?
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im on a 96 f22 block with h22 head, stock f22 pistons, and i decked the block 30 thousanths so im runing a 9:1 cr and boosting 9-10 psi.. its ALOT of fun
i can't imagin what 20 would feel like!!
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10-28-2005, 11:25 AM
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Re: My Hybrid Build F22a1 bottom end H23a1 head! (bleewdragon)
Glad to see more people jumping on the bandwagon... Your setup seems real similar to my new setup I'm building except I have 97mm stroke... Can't wait to see the progress... 
10-28-2005, 11:38 AM
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Re: My Hybrid Build F22a1 bottom end H23a1 head! (prelittlelude)
Im not sure about the rev. i have a stock p14 ecu that i was going to use for the break in and adjust the rev and everything after i get it tuned. but im not sure if im going to go piggyback ems like greddy or full standalone like aem. I want to build the head to just having some trouble finding camshafts for a non-vtec prelude.
10-28-2005, 11:41 AM
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Re: My Hybrid Build F22a1 bottom end H23a1 head! (bleewdragon)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bleewdragon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im not sure about the rev. i have a stock p14 ecu that i was going to use for the break in and adjust the rev and everything after i get it tuned. but im not sure if im going to go piggyback ems like greddy or full standalone like aem. I want to build the head to just having some trouble finding camshafts for a non-vtec prelude.</TD></TR></TABLE>
its always a good idea to break in a new motor with a stock ecu that way you have good fuel and timing for the motor to seat the rings. just make sure if you do go standalone not to rev the **** out of it. I have my fuel cut at 7200 i think or 7300 and i usually shift at 7k with my turbo setup the car like a lower vtec engaugement so i don't fall out of the high cam
its always a good idea to break in a new motor with a stock ecu that way you have good fuel and timing for the motor to seat the rings. just make sure if you do go standalone not to rev the **** out of it. I have my fuel cut at 7200 i think or 7300 and i usually shift at 7k with my turbo setup the car like a lower vtec engaugement so i don't fall out of the high cam
10-28-2005, 11:46 AM
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Re: My Hybrid Build F22a1 bottom end H23a1 head! (prelittlelude)
not planing on reving too high 7k-75k is going to be about it.
what are you guys feeling on uberdata tuning? theres a guy round my way that is supposed to be a bad *** uberdata tuner and he has done a couple of project here that are putting up some good numbers but other than that i havent heard too much about it.
what are you guys feeling on uberdata tuning? theres a guy round my way that is supposed to be a bad *** uberdata tuner and he has done a couple of project here that are putting up some good numbers but other than that i havent heard too much about it.
10-29-2005, 06:05 PM
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Rod and Piston W/ Rings
Rods and Pistons Installed W/ Block Guard
Timing Gears - The one thing you have to change when doing this particular hybrid! You have to use the smaller one from a prelude block.
Rods and Pistons Installed W/ Block Guard
Timing Gears - The one thing you have to change when doing this particular hybrid! You have to use the smaller one from a prelude block.
10-31-2005, 07:36 AM
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Re: My Hybrid Build F22a1 bottom end H23a1 head! (bleewdragon)
very nice, good to see the progress.. i jsut realized alot of the info of my thread is down, well not the info but the pictures.. i had a **** ton too, im going to have to work on getting those back up , but good to see you photographing as you go
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I really wanna do this, but what all do you need to do to use the h23 head. I was doing research and read up but still don't understand what is all needed to do the swap. Also what will you be doing to the head and where is the blockguard from???
11-01-2005, 09:36 AM
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THINGS NEEDED FOR THIS HEAD SWAP INTO AND ACCORD SO FAR:
1. H23 COMPLETE HEAD AND INTAKE MANIFOLD
2. H23 TIMING GEAR
3. ACCORD OR H22 DISTRIBUTOR (H23 DIZZY HAS AN EXTERNAL COIL)
1. H23 COMPLETE HEAD AND INTAKE MANIFOLD
2. H23 TIMING GEAR
3. ACCORD OR H22 DISTRIBUTOR (H23 DIZZY HAS AN EXTERNAL COIL)
11-01-2005, 11:49 PM
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sorry i have an f22a1 i searched on this didn't find much but let me get this right?
f22a1 accepts the H23a1 complete head and just slaps all together only requiring the h23 timing sprocket...
i think i need to make it down to the junkyard...
f22a1 accepts the H23a1 complete head and just slaps all together only requiring the h23 timing sprocket...
i think i need to make it down to the junkyard...
11-02-2005, 08:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bleewdragon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">THINGS NEEDED FOR THIS HEAD SWAP INTO AND ACCORD SO FAR:
1. H23 COMPLETE HEAD AND INTAKE MANIFOLD
2. H23 TIMING GEAR
3. ACCORD OR H22 DISTRIBUTOR (H23 DIZZY HAS AN EXTERNAL COIL)</TD></TR></TABLE>
YOU ALSO MAY NEED:
4.F23 HEAD GASKET(recommended by prelittlelude) but you could probably use a h23 one.
5. fill one of the oil drains on the timing side of the head with hondabond(you can tell which one when you line up the gasket.
6. h23 or a f22 water pipe as they are exactly the same
1. H23 COMPLETE HEAD AND INTAKE MANIFOLD
2. H23 TIMING GEAR
3. ACCORD OR H22 DISTRIBUTOR (H23 DIZZY HAS AN EXTERNAL COIL)</TD></TR></TABLE>
YOU ALSO MAY NEED:
4.F23 HEAD GASKET(recommended by prelittlelude) but you could probably use a h23 one.
5. fill one of the oil drains on the timing side of the head with hondabond(you can tell which one when you line up the gasket.
6. h23 or a f22 water pipe as they are exactly the same
11-02-2005, 08:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bleewdragon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
6. h23 or a f22 water pipe as they are exactly the same</TD></TR></TABLE>
H23 and F22 waterpipes <U>are not</U> the same... They are the same size on the thermostat side but H-blocks have a larger hole on the waterpump size... That is why you can use an F22 waterpipe with this combo because it fits the H23 thermostat and the F-block water pump opening...
6. h23 or a f22 water pipe as they are exactly the same</TD></TR></TABLE>
H23 and F22 waterpipes <U>are not</U> the same... They are the same size on the thermostat side but H-blocks have a larger hole on the waterpump size... That is why you can use an F22 waterpipe with this combo because it fits the H23 thermostat and the F-block water pump opening...
11-02-2005, 05:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PirateMcFred »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sam's right. Specifically the F22A1/6 water pipes. Here is a pic of 4 different types and the F22A is the one to get unless you like to cut and splice...
Pirate</TD></TR></TABLE>
So you can't use a waterpipe from an F22A4 or an F22B1/2 ??? Do they have a different sized thermostat housing or something?
Sam's right. Specifically the F22A1/6 water pipes. Here is a pic of 4 different types and the F22A is the one to get unless you like to cut and splice...
Pirate</TD></TR></TABLE>
So you can't use a waterpipe from an F22A4 or an F22B1/2 ??? Do they have a different sized thermostat housing or something?