My First Motor Swap Help
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My First Motor Swap Help
Hello HT,
I'm going to be doing my first motor swap into my EM1, and have a few questions.
I'm going to be getting an H2B kit, so that way I can still use my trans and don't have to buy one, as well as axles.
I'm also going to be doing an F20B swap because the motor can be bought at a faily cheap price. I'm going to be getting it from HMO.
Questions:
Will the Hasport motor mounts for an H22 bolt up to my car as well as the motor
Will an H22 starter work as well. HMO doesn't sell the motor with the starter.
With the H2B kit, and the motor here, as well as the ECU, is there anything else I am going to need for the swap? This is my first swap I am attempting and want to know if there is anything I am missing, and if it is going to be fairly simple if I have all the pasrts needed.
Thanks!
I'm going to be doing my first motor swap into my EM1, and have a few questions.
I'm going to be getting an H2B kit, so that way I can still use my trans and don't have to buy one, as well as axles.
I'm also going to be doing an F20B swap because the motor can be bought at a faily cheap price. I'm going to be getting it from HMO.
Questions:
Will the Hasport motor mounts for an H22 bolt up to my car as well as the motor
Will an H22 starter work as well. HMO doesn't sell the motor with the starter.
With the H2B kit, and the motor here, as well as the ECU, is there anything else I am going to need for the swap? This is my first swap I am attempting and want to know if there is anything I am missing, and if it is going to be fairly simple if I have all the pasrts needed.
Thanks!
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pretty sure you'll need a special axle for the tranny side. i believe hasport sells them.
with the H2B you just need a b series mount and linkage and you're good i think.
there's a crap load of this information on here. do some research
with the H2B you just need a b series mount and linkage and you're good i think.
there's a crap load of this information on here. do some research
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I have to say it, simply:
The QSD H2B kit uses B SERIES mounts.
The swap is effectively a b-series in every way except the wiring.
Oh, and the face-ripping torque.
The QSD H2B kit uses B SERIES mounts.
The swap is effectively a b-series in every way except the wiring.
Oh, and the face-ripping torque.
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An H22 harness would be almost entirely useless. Modifying the existing harness would take minutes instead of the hours it would take to make a Prelude harness work on a civic. Or are you saying you have an EX harness already modified?
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lol, I have a 99-00 Civic EX harness already modified and ready to go. I just pulled it from my H swap and replaced it with a complete tucked harness from Rywire.
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How much are you asking?
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With that, the Motor, the engine wire harness, and the Axel from hasport is there anything that I am missing?
I know I need a starter, and I've treid to search to see if the H22 starter will work.
Thanks for your help so far!
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I'm not sure on the starter. The H2B FAQ in the hybrid forum has probably answered that question.
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That's what I thought too.
I thought that if I did the H2B kit, I would be able to keep my Axels as well as Trans. I'm not looking to go crazy, I just need something more than my B16.
I thought that if I did the H2B kit, I would be able to keep my Axels as well as Trans. I'm not looking to go crazy, I just need something more than my B16.
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I had an f20b and the starter is the same as the h22 starter but if your doing h2b just get a b16 starter cause that's what you need for it.
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That makes the most sense, since the starter goes into the transmission I would assume you'd use a b-series starter with a b-series transmission.
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All u need its the longblock with wiring cuz ull need couple plugs that ur harness doesn't have... U use ur oem tranny, oem axles, oem shift linkage, oem starter, oem flywheel, oem clutch, oem pressure plate, oem mounts, oem engine harness, and everything else b-series...
That's the whole point of h2b is to just swap out the longblock.. they have a flywheel spacer with the kit, so if u use ur tranny and flywheel with clutch, common sense here, use oem starter cuz its the perfect length size and fitment to ur original b-series parts.. block has nothing to do with starter, its the tranny with flywheel that matters..
Ull also need h2b header or bend urs.. and auto tensioner converter to manual cuz it fails and easier to cjange now than later when car is running, timing belt is also h22s weakness..
U can get anything aftermarket but make sure its oem fitment... As in don't get h22 to ek swap mount cuz they wont work... Think of it as u pulled ur b16 out, bored it to 2.0 and built it a lil.. and now ur putting it back in.. plain and simple as that...
Anybody wanna confirm or add or correct me?
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Done it this way before and after 6 years, still running great..
That's with qsd kit... No idea about what needs to be done with EVO kit
That's the whole point of h2b is to just swap out the longblock.. they have a flywheel spacer with the kit, so if u use ur tranny and flywheel with clutch, common sense here, use oem starter cuz its the perfect length size and fitment to ur original b-series parts.. block has nothing to do with starter, its the tranny with flywheel that matters..
Ull also need h2b header or bend urs.. and auto tensioner converter to manual cuz it fails and easier to cjange now than later when car is running, timing belt is also h22s weakness..
U can get anything aftermarket but make sure its oem fitment... As in don't get h22 to ek swap mount cuz they wont work... Think of it as u pulled ur b16 out, bored it to 2.0 and built it a lil.. and now ur putting it back in.. plain and simple as that...
Anybody wanna confirm or add or correct me?
Feel free
Done it this way before and after 6 years, still running great..
That's with qsd kit... No idea about what needs to be done with EVO kit
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All u need its the longblock with wiring cuz ull need couple plugs that ur harness doesn't have... U use ur oem tranny, oem axles, oem shift linkage, oem starter, oem flywheel, oem clutch, oem pressure plate, oem mounts, oem engine harness, and everything else b-series...
That's the whole point of h2b is to just swap out the longblock.. they have a flywheel spacer with the kit, so if u use ur tranny and flywheel with clutch, common sense here, use oem starter cuz its the perfect length size and fitment to ur original b-series parts.. block has nothing to do with starter, its the tranny with flywheel that matters..
Ull also need h2b header or bend urs.. and auto tensioner converter to manual cuz it fails and easier to cjange now than later when car is running, timing belt is also h22s weakness..
U can get anything aftermarket but make sure its oem fitment... As in don't get h22 to ek swap mount cuz they wont work... Think of it as u pulled ur b16 out, bored it to 2.0 and built it a lil.. and now ur putting it back in.. plain and simple as that...
Anybody wanna confirm or add or correct me?
Feel free
Done it this way before and after 6 years, still running great..
That's with qsd kit... No idea about what needs to be done with EVO kit
That's the whole point of h2b is to just swap out the longblock.. they have a flywheel spacer with the kit, so if u use ur tranny and flywheel with clutch, common sense here, use oem starter cuz its the perfect length size and fitment to ur original b-series parts.. block has nothing to do with starter, its the tranny with flywheel that matters..
Ull also need h2b header or bend urs.. and auto tensioner converter to manual cuz it fails and easier to cjange now than later when car is running, timing belt is also h22s weakness..
U can get anything aftermarket but make sure its oem fitment... As in don't get h22 to ek swap mount cuz they wont work... Think of it as u pulled ur b16 out, bored it to 2.0 and built it a lil.. and now ur putting it back in.. plain and simple as that...
Anybody wanna confirm or add or correct me?
Feel free
Done it this way before and after 6 years, still running great..
That's with qsd kit... No idea about what needs to be done with EVO kit
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If u didn't buy the motor yet .. make sure u get the manual vesion.. unless u rwally want it cheap and stock all the way... Many reasons I would get f20b manual versionover any h22
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Also, do you know if my AC comp is compatible with the F20?
It's hot here and want to everything I can to keep AC.