vtecjunkie

i have a couple questions , i have a 95 gsr, it has like 106,000 miles its stock except for exhaust,an skunk2 coilovers, anyway i wanna get a complete type r head, intake manifold,cams everything, first question how much , second question what kinda gains should i expect, i can get like a 5 grand personal loan very easy, since i need brakes an tires, i was lookin at type r 5 lug conversion, i see um go for like 1500, if i get that it takes care of the brakes, an tires, an i can get hooked up on some spoon or toda headers, an id get like an aem cold air, can you guys mybe give some kind of estimate, i no your gonna say it depends on the car an driver, i think im a good driver i beat this kids type r the other nightin a straght line race an soem twisties, kinda in the twisties, but anyway thanks in advance for any help an info, ps the only reason i ask is beacause i dotn feel like goin threw the hassle of gettin a new car an havin big payments when i like my so much it just has a good amount of miles so i wanna get all the new stuff, anyway sorry for the long post thanks

eric


[Modified by vtecjunkie, 7:33 PM 1/21/2002]

nfn15037

Well, im only going to address the ITR head parts. It will lower your compression to ablut 9.7:1, which sucks, so you are better off getting ITR cams, valvesprings, PandP, and a skunk2 intake mani with a chipped ECU. That way, you will still have 10:1, maybe a little higher if you use a spoon headgasket. Just my $.02, its not worth it to get an ITR head.

StinkyTofu

i agree Prepare to pay up and wait long if you want to port and polish though. I suggest finding a good working used GSR head and then send it to get a port and polish along with a new valvetrain and cams/camgears. That way you can still drive your car while you wait

Yellow Dragon

What about a B16 head? I've heard they flow similar to the B18C5 head.

nfn15037

B16 and ITR heads are the same casting(pr3), just the ITR one is ported. Again, it will lower compression on a GSR.

vtecjunkie

cant i just get a spoon or mugen head gasket to take care of the compression problem,plus its not gonna stay like that , i have toda spec b's with ctr pistons lined up , an i heard ctr pistons's dont like gsr heads

vtecjunkie

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StinkyTofu

yeah if you got a spoon or mugen head gasket you should be running close to stock compression give or take a few points.

nfn15037

CTR pistons are great with the GSR head. Its like 12.5:1 compression, sweet with the spec Bs you speak of.

Hybrid ctr

just stick with a stock headgasket
and you won't have a problem with ctr pictons and B's

vtecjunkie

stock headgasket on the type r head or gsr plus the spec b's an ctr pistons?

fowler!

Why don't you just change out the pistons while you're doing the head? Switch to some CTR pistons and an ITR head and I think you'll be looking at about 30hp at the wheels. It's a very good idea. I was planning on doing it, but my tranny went poop..

But yeah, you can sell your GSR head after everything is said and done and make an extra couple of $$$ on the side.

GokuSSJ4

change the pistons ! you'll have better gains then just the head ! and while the botton end is getting done send the gsr head for port and polish .you'll have some nice #'s .

Jackson

just to give you an idea, a guy i know used a complete itr top end on his 96 gsr block with stock gsr pistons. had every bolt on and fully tuned, put out 175 whp. not bad, but he can make more with higher compression. he was even using the 97 spec itr ecu.

FitCRX

Whats CTR?? Civic Type R?

Jackson

itr=integra type r , ctr=civic type r. shhhh, dont tell anyone, its a secret.

StinkyTofu

how much would it cost for me to change out pistons? Cause i am planning to change my valvetrain and cams to my head, should i save the extra money and have everything done at once?

fowler!

you could probably get the CTR pistons and rings for like 250 tops

vladd

screw the itr head. you said you're getting aftermarket cams and springs anyway. the money you'll save could be better spent on pistons