K20 v.s. ALL
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K20 v.s. ALL
Is there any motor out at this point that compares to the K20? Is there any other motor that takes mods and performs like the K20? N/A of course, like the B18C5 H22 etc etc? Lets leave out the LS-VTEC and Poor Man's R for the sake of picking factory motors.
Hopefully this will not turn into a flop or bashing.
Hopefully this will not turn into a flop or bashing.
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Re: K20 v.s. ALL (redrex02)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redrex02 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Is there any other motor that takes mods and performs like the K20? N/A of course, like the B18C5 H22 etc etc? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Nope
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redrex02 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there any motor out at this point that compares to the K20?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The ONLY thing that makes other swap better is that you will spent less money on them to preform the swap.
And maybe b-series has a better aftermarket (not for long)
Nope
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redrex02 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there any motor out at this point that compares to the K20?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The ONLY thing that makes other swap better is that you will spent less money on them to preform the swap.
And maybe b-series has a better aftermarket (not for long)
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Re: K20 v.s. ALL (turbogixxer)
H22 is the closest competitor with the C5 right on it's heels. However, the k20 is a completely new design and makes power like no other.
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what's your email address so i can respond to your question from the IM. i am not allowed to use this function when i tried to reply
email me at angel.gutierrez@insightbb.com
email me at angel.gutierrez@insightbb.com
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I dunno...
I know you said no-boost, but....
in a 2000 pound EG CX hatch, you could throw a cheap small (autox friendly) turbo on a D16Z6 or D16Y8 and the car would fawkin RIP... especilly since there is a cheap 4.7 final drive out now for hydro D-Si trannies.
how much is a complete D16Z6 or Y8 swap? = 400 to 700 +boost or N/A mods.
how much is a K20 swap/mounts/etc? = I dont wanna know, its ugly.
I know you said no-boost, but....
in a 2000 pound EG CX hatch, you could throw a cheap small (autox friendly) turbo on a D16Z6 or D16Y8 and the car would fawkin RIP... especilly since there is a cheap 4.7 final drive out now for hydro D-Si trannies.
how much is a complete D16Z6 or Y8 swap? = 400 to 700 +boost or N/A mods.
how much is a K20 swap/mounts/etc? = I dont wanna know, its ugly.
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Re: (stevel)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stevel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H22 with custom bellhousing for b series tranny. Throw on an ITR tranny with an ATS FD and that fawker would rip!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Primo. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">s2k motor w/k20 tranny </TD></TR></TABLE>
I like both of those combos!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Primo. »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">s2k motor w/k20 tranny </TD></TR></TABLE>
I like both of those combos!!
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D16 w/boost compared to a K20, I can't see the similarities at all. But what do I know. What kind of boost we talkin on the D16?
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Re: K20 v.s. ALL (turbogixxer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redrex02 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">D16 w/boost compared to a K20, I can't see the similarities at all. But what do I know. What kind of boost we talkin on the D16?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogixxer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The ONLY thing that makes other swap better is that you will spent less money on them to preform the swap. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogixxer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The ONLY thing that makes other swap better is that you will spent less money on them to preform the swap. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redrex02 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">D16 w/boost compared to a K20, I can't see the similarities at all. But what do I know. What kind of boost we talkin on the D16?</TD></TR></TABLE>small turbo for quick spoolup, something to only get power output to K20 levels.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by owen_the_soyboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">small turbo for quick spoolup, something to only get power output to K20 levels.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Bah, throw in some good pistons and rods and boost that baby to 12psi. That's like 250+hp and similar tq.
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Bah, throw in some good pistons and rods and boost that baby to 12psi. That's like 250+hp and similar tq.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jaybee »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After a street race against a RSX Type-S in my hatch...I will admit that K motor is strong...</TD></TR></TABLE>
rsx-s has a nice motor, but in the rsx... nothing impressive as far as i'm concerned.
i raced an rsx-s from stoplight to stoplight. then on the the highway, the only time the rsx got me was when my car cut off at 120. (stupid jdm speed limiter)
but anyways... dont think i'm hating or anything..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by goldenboi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">k20 is a pimp motor if you got the money</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H23AHybridEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My JDM H23A DOHC VTEC rules all!!!!!
Actually I don't have enough money for a K20A ...</TD></TR></TABLE>
u are so right my friend
rsx-s has a nice motor, but in the rsx... nothing impressive as far as i'm concerned.
i raced an rsx-s from stoplight to stoplight. then on the the highway, the only time the rsx got me was when my car cut off at 120. (stupid jdm speed limiter)
but anyways... dont think i'm hating or anything..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by goldenboi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">k20 is a pimp motor if you got the money</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H23AHybridEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My JDM H23A DOHC VTEC rules all!!!!!
Actually I don't have enough money for a K20A ...</TD></TR></TABLE>
u are so right my friend
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Re: (norcalcrx)
Norcalcrx: What size turbo do you have, is it the turbo that comes with the kit? 15G I believe? Any other mods? 250whp is damn impressive got the d16 on 10psi.
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Re: (redrex02)
I am running the stock 92-95 sohc greddy kit. This has the 15g. The link in my sig has the breakdown of the parts im running. Mainly its good fuel and spark with great tuning.
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if its power everyone is going for ya the k20 has a very good amount. but to me its like, there is always someone faster and better then you, so you mod your car to the point where it makes you happy. i think a itr motor, and build it up to get my hb runing like mid to low 12s, and iam a happy man
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gezer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if its power everyone is going for ya the k20 has a very good amount. but to me its like, there is always someone faster and better then you, so you mod your car to the point where it makes you happy. i think a itr motor, and build it up to get my hb runing like mid to low 12s, and iam a happy man </TD></TR></TABLE>
i bet you could reach that goal with a k-series and end up having spent the same amount of money, if not less. plus then you have a newer, more up-to-date motor in your car.
EDIT: unless maybe if you want to boost...
i bet you could reach that goal with a k-series and end up having spent the same amount of money, if not less. plus then you have a newer, more up-to-date motor in your car.
EDIT: unless maybe if you want to boost...
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Re: (nickzed20)
for most of us people that are too poor to afford K20's we concoct all these applications that would meet or exceed it. but stock motor to stock motor nothing touches a K20. yea h22's come close and are a lot cheaper and could easily be built up a bit to meet/beat it... but talking strictly stock, it is the best motor for our civics. DUH!!!! but then again who knows how long these motors will last since they are still new. maybe after 100k they all instantly blow up.