Long story short but here goes...

I bought a EG civic a few months back now and I really only bought it for the engine to put in my super clean EG shell.

I bought it with the owner telling me the engine is from a 96 SPEC JDM INTEGRA TYPE R.

However, a friend and a few people over @ civiclife.net have made me doubt it is the above and could be a lower spec engine? I was new to the honda world and in all honesty took the guy's words as gospel.

Anyhow here are a few pictures. The engine is now out the car and I'm going to be giving it a clean, paint, cambelt and clutch etc before it goes in the clean shell. Any numbers or any info I can get from the engine that will determine what it's from just let me know and I'll get them!

Thanks

Dan

 

looks like 96-97 spec itr to me besides the gsr throttle bracket. and before anyone else flames on him it doesn't look like there are threads for the tranny or evidence of a vin plate ever being on there so more then likely a jdm tranny

what country are you in btw?

 

Pull the valve cover and look at the cams. There's a difference in cams between the B18 GSR and the R motor. Not exactly sure. Google it. Lol. But that is the best way to tell.

 

the pr3 stamp on the head means its eithe b16 or itr head

 

Seems like this discussion just came up in here...

PR3-x where X = 1, 2, 3 or 4 = B16 or ITR head.

Seems you have a Skunk2 IM, so that could have been changed.

Did they claim the trans is ITR as well? If so, what is stamped on it? This pic, if shot a little more to the left will show the stamp.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...dan/photo5.jpg

Looks like it might say LSD, but just the bottom of the letters.

 

This thread is still on the first page:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-type-r-8/do-i-have-real-type-r-2844934/

Search is your friend.

And this thread belongs in the hybrid forum, NOT the ITR forum.

 

Gearbox is from a UK MB6 civic mate. I can't remember the code but it is LSD. I'll be replacing it with a S80 from a ITR though.

I'm in UK.

 

OK so if I pull the rocker cover off what do I look out for to make sure it's ITR?

Thanks.

 

If you want to pull a cam out you could compair the rings. dual valve springs on both intake and exhaust

 

It's a RB26DETT, OP you got ripped off.

 

lol, and just keep that tranny if it has lsd it's probably all ITR

 

if that's an itr, and it very well may be it's an early 96 spec that likely has no port work in the head. not that it makes much of a difference but the first jdm itr's were as cast, then hand ported then cnc'd starting in 98. if you ever pull the head and it's not bowl blended, don't freak. the cam grooves and valve spring colors are probably your best bet. look for yellow intakes and blue/green on the exhaust.

 

That's interesting because I had a 97 PR3-1 CTR head and it had the hand porting. 98' and later they went to a cnc porting.
One thing that bothers me about this engine is the exhaust studs. B16 heads used exhaust studs like the one above but the itr only had the in the corners and the rest were bolts. It might be a 96 b16a head on a gsr/itr block......

 

or it could be someone adding a stud or how it was done it jdm land. pull the valve cover and take a look. most the hand ported heads were pr3-2, if you've seen 1s hand blended that would be a fact i didn't know. i do know at least a few hundred 96 itr engines were made with no porting. they were the very first run

 

Motor looks clean

 

that thread was mine, i wanted to delete it after i found out it was a real type r, my questions were answered and u guys were just floating non sense in it.

to the guy with the question, YES it does look likea real type r. the serial numbers under the b18c, is either 10xxx for jdm gsr, 96-97 spec itr is 19xxx...which ids what i have and you do.

what i did, i took valve cover off and looked at the springs, intake side will have yellow springs, or yellow top, exhaust side will have green.

 

ohh that was a good thread. did you find out if you had 3tec yo ?

 

**** a 3tec i had da berserker tec

 

It has green on the exhaust side and yellow on the intake for definate.

Does this confirm it's a ITR head then?

And what about the bottom end? How do I confirm that?

thanks

 

Bump!

 

No one replying now? Would be nice for someone to just confirm my hope that this is a proper B18C Type R?

Thanks.

 

lol for your bottom end you can check if the crank has an R on it and if it says p73 for the pistons

 

As a previous owner of a 97 spec JDM B18c Type R, YES, that is a real genuine 96 spec JDM B18c Type R! Heres why:
1. On the block where it just says "B18C", the numbers underneath it actually have a meaning, but only the first three. Yours starts with the digits 190. 190 means 1996, 200 means 1997, 210 means 1998 and so on. those digits are only designated to real type r blocks. if its just 100, not a type r.
2. Your head has the stamp "PR3" on it, which is what type r's have, other engines have it too, but there's no reason someone would swap another PR3 head on a real genuine type r block, unless the previous head got messed up somehow.
That's all there is to it. No doubt about it, congratulations.

 

You're nine years late to the party.

 

His info just proved useful to me in 2023. 👌