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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 12:08 AM
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Ok im a newb and have some questions if this setup will work out for me(I know search is my friend but am looking for responses to this) Ok i have a 92 si hatch and wanna swap in a H22A JDM none of that USDM ish, Raxle Axles, skunk2 coilovers, tokico adjustable shocks, rear swaybar and front/rear tower bars, hasport mounts, hasport racing harness, Bigger rotors with stock calipers, does this sound like a good setup for an H22A swap?????? If there is anything that i left out that i need let me know.......ive been researching on this swap for a couple of moths now and like the idea of an H in my hatch, besides around here in Stl its hard to come by a civic with an H swap..........different is better.........ok thanks Honda-tech.com is good info on this website
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 12:09 AM
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Oh yeah and run the P13 ECU, and a walbro 255 pump, whats all the litte niddy gritty stuff that im leaving out i know there is somethin, and i know Poison knows his **** aout this swap


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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 03:38 AM
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I think most people over look the electical end of the swap. I am in the middle of wiring up my motor, and relized I had to connectors or anything to extend my wires. Also since the h22 is new to me I still can not figure out what all the sensors are on it. But that is what I overlooked about the swap. Also when I dropped the h22 in my car I wasnt sure yet which wiring harness I was gonna use so I left wiring harness on the motor, and it was tedious to take that one off since I am gonna use the d16 harness. What I also overlooked was that the power steering pump is about 2mm away from the dual core full length radiator so I am trying to figure out what I am going to do bout that. Your fuel filter will most likely have to be relocated cuz on my car at least it is going to be in the way of any type of intake piping. hope this was what you were looking for. Also the clutch and the fuel lines are gonna have to made up special cuz you cant use either the prelude one or the civic ones in my case atleast, so that is just another thing you have to play around with.


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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 05:31 AM
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why is it that the fuel lines and clutch line cant be used from either source?

i havnt heard anything like this, can you explain?
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 05:58 AM
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Ok im a newb and have some questions if this setup will work out for me(I know search is my friend but am looking for responses to this) Ok i have a 92 si hatch and wanna swap in a H22A JDM none of that USDM ish, Raxle Axles, skunk2 coilovers, tokico adjustable shocks, rear swaybar and front/rear tower bars, hasport mounts, hasport racing harness, Bigger rotors with stock calipers, does this sound like a good setup for an H22A swap?????? If there is anything that i left out that i need let me know.......ive been researching on this swap for a couple of moths now and like the idea of an H in my hatch, besides around here in Stl its hard to come by a civic with an H swap..........different is better.........ok thanks Honda-tech.com is good info on this website
That set-up should be just fine. Thats pretty much a mirror of my set-up except I am using a 195lpm Walbro fuel pump.

I'm not to far from STL (about 2hrs) but I'm sure I heard of a couple H swap down there.
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 06:19 AM
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Do you guys run an FPR with your Walbros to keep pressure down? I have a 255 LPH pump that I have not installed yet for fear my fuel PSI would be too high..
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 08:22 AM
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[/QUOTE]That set-up should be just fine. Thats pretty much a mirror of my set-up except I am using a 195lpm Walbro fuel pump.

I'm not to far from STL (about 2hrs) but I'm sure I heard of a couple H swap down there.[/QUOTE] Ive heard of about 6, chuck at advanced has one in his ek, hidden did 1 on a coupe, and there is 3 being done at thrust or next level, and one that had sold his a while back, ive never seen one on the streets before.....
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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STAY AWAY FROM RAXLES AXLESI had them a while ago and I was VERY dissapointed in the quality of them, if you want pics have some for you!


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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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One other thing your going to wanna track down is the H22 LSD Tranny
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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sup silverjdmhatch

you've done a fair amount of research knowing what you know and doing well.

I would definitely jump on the LSD tranny (Code is M2B4). The set up you're talking about is a good overall set up, however, like Bryan (H22EK) said I would definitely steer away from Raxles. He's had issues up the *** with those. I would jump on DSS Axles using the Prelude intermediate shaft, or get the Integra Axles/Accord mid-shaft combo.

As for everything else, looks like you have 'em covered
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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Alright sounds good ill be using the DSS then....whats the website or # i can contact them at.....also the radiator( dont i need to use a del sol dual core or 2000 si radiators instead of my stock one????)
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 03:03 PM
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driveshaftshop.com or 800-564-2244

yep you can use the del sol vtec radiator, any integra, or 2000 si.
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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what are the options at DSS.com. i have only seen the "level 1's" for $400 and a few more expensive ones. Do they have anything cheaper? I heard about
"stage 1's", but when i emailed them, They said that "they are gone."

Hope this helps the Both of us...
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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I heard about "stage 1's", but when i emailed them, They said that "they are gone."
Can you clarify that statement for me please.
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 04:22 PM
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Sounds like you have a pretty good list so far exept for the Raxels. Like everyone else said I have heard nothing but problems about them. As for the radiator, you can use the Del Sol dual core, Integra, Si, etc, but I am currently running a C&R with the front mount push Spal fan. I gives me the extra cooling as well as extra clearance for whenever I need to bleed the clutch, do clutches, work on tranny, etc. As for fuel pressure, I am running the BBK/Walbro 255 with a B&M fuel pressure reg and guage. I tuned the car with a VAFC and have the fuel pressure set to 42 with the line on. As for relocation of the fuel filter, I guess it just depends on the mounts. I run the Hasports, and didn't have an issue with clearance to the intake, but I have heard of some people with the HCP and Place Racing mounts having to relocate it a little to the left. And as you said before, Poison knows his **** as well as Newman and Jason Kidd and I. So feel free to ask any of us questions if you need. Good luck.
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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thanks everyone for your input on this, and if i need help in the future i'll be sure to talk to you guys.....
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 04:45 PM
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DSS.com rocks.

I the custom h22 axles one evening, online, and I had an email in my inbox the next day before noon saying they had shipped out
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 07:25 PM
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Since we are all discussing about what axles will be a good setup: On my H22A setup, I tried all sorts of axles. The setup up that worked for me was using the prelude intermediate shaft, using prelude inner shaft with teg Type R outer shaft on the passenger side. Using prelude inner shaft with type R outer shaft on the driver side but the whole driver side assembly had to get shortened a little bit to fit and drive smoothly. Before you wanna do a H22 conversion in your ride, try to find someone who will let you ride in their h22 powered civic and see how the quality of the ride feels, cause you are going to loose a lot of smoothness especially if you are gonna use polyurehtene bushings. After the engine is installed in the engine bay, it is not going to move because the bushings will not allow it to and all the vibrations from the motor will be transfered into the the frame of the car causing some serious vibrations at really low rpm's. This conversion is no where near b-series conversions when it comes to handling and vibrations. Oh and my car is a 99 civic coupe.
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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Since we are all discussing about what axles will be a good setup: On my H22A setup, I tried all sorts of axles. The setup up that worked for me was using the prelude intermediate shaft, using prelude inner shaft with teg Type R outer shaft on the passenger side. Using prelude inner shaft with type R outer shaft on the driver side but the whole driver side assembly had to get shortened a little bit to fit and drive smoothly. Before you wanna do a H22 conversion in your ride, try to find someone who will let you ride in their h22 powered civic and see how the quality of the ride feels, cause you are going to loose a lot of smoothness especially if you are gonna use polyurehtene bushings. After the engine is installed in the engine bay, it is not going to move because the bushings will not allow it to and all the vibrations from the motor will be transfered into the the frame of the car causing some serious vibrations at really low rpm's. This conversion is no where near b-series conversions when it comes to handling and vibrations. Oh and my car is a 99 civic coupe.
what? not true.
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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What are some of the main problems that Raxle axles have?
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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b18turbo has a group buy, free shipping in the best buy section on DSS axles
he can also get some stage1's custom made, if you want to get something cheaper.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 08:28 AM
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b18turbo has a group buy, free shipping in the best buy section on DSS axles
he can also get some stage1's custom made, if you want to get something cheaper.
If he can get them custom made. Is it possible for him to get the axles fitted for an Accord Intermediate shaft
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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*sigh* as I watch the costs of my H22 plan spiral out of control

I am gonna have to start selling sperm to afford this ******

price you pay for 400+whp I guess

now if I can only afford to do this before I die of old age
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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I am gonna have to start selling sperm to afford this ******
Haha.

Or you you can donate plasma. My friend would do that so he could have some cash go to out on the weekends LOL.

I know what you mean though.
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Old Apr 3, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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Default Re: H22A setup (poison)

you've done a fair amount of research knowing what you know and doing well.

I would definitely jump on the LSD tranny (Code is M2B4). The set up you're talking about is a good overall set up, however, like Bryan (H22EK) said I would definitely steer away from Raxles. He's had issues up the *** with those. I would jump on DSS Axles using the Prelude intermediate shaft, or get the Integra Axles/Accord mid-shaft combo.

As for everything else, looks like you have 'em covered
yep i've done stage 2 and loving them. haven't broke an axle yet knock on wood!!!! go slow and save your money, the only problem with this swap is the h22 is costly to mod. IMO
chose your mods wisely, research!!!!
stock p13 is good to start with but hondata is better
hotshot makes a great header just for this swap. you need to weld it in place but the gains are great i hear. also a....
good luck with your swap
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