h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK????
06-02-2008, 09:57 PM
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h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK????
I swapped a jdm h22 in my 95 civic dx and went to start it and there is no spark.
After the third crank it tried to run for a second and then cut out but no spark after that.
It turns over and is getting fuel but no fire.
any suggestions
After the third crank it tried to run for a second and then cut out but no spark after that.
It turns over and is getting fuel but no fire.
any suggestions
06-03-2008, 10:06 AM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg_h22 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I swapped a jdm h22 in my 95 civic dx and went to start it and there is no spark.
After the third crank it tried to run for a second and then cut out but no spark after that.
It turns over and is getting fuel but no fire.
any suggestions </TD></TR></TABLE>
check all of your grounds. and Main relay.
After the third crank it tried to run for a second and then cut out but no spark after that.
It turns over and is getting fuel but no fire.
any suggestions
</TD></TR></TABLE>check all of your grounds. and Main relay.
06-03-2008, 11:04 AM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (h22crxpwr)
its my first time with a honda... could you please tell me where the main relay is?
sorry if its a stupid question
sorry if its a stupid question
06-03-2008, 11:15 AM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg_h22 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its my first time with a honda... could you please tell me where the main relay is?
sorry if its a stupid question
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not a stupid question at all. inside the car, under the dash on the drivers side. bolted up to the side with 10mm bolts. near the fuse panel. do you hear a click when you turn the key to the "on" position? not starting the car just the first turn of the key you should hear a "click" from the relay.
sorry if its a stupid question
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not a stupid question at all. inside the car, under the dash on the drivers side. bolted up to the side with 10mm bolts. near the fuse panel. do you hear a click when you turn the key to the "on" position? not starting the car just the first turn of the key you should hear a "click" from the relay.
06-03-2008, 01:47 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (h22crxpwr)
relay clicks... tranny, thermo, and valve cover grounds look good. All fuses are good.
How do I check for codes?
How do I check for codes?
06-03-2008, 02:14 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
do you have a CEL on? if you do then you can check the codes with a small plug located under the glovebox area. you have to jump it with a wire then the CEL will flash. the Flashes determine the codes its throwing. have you checked all of your fuses as well? none blown? they may not look blown but could be. i always check both sides of the fuse with a test light. i had one that did not look blown at all but the test light didnt light. changed the fuse and the car fired right up.
is it a known good dizzy? take the cap and rotor off and see if there is any obvious damage.. if you have access to another one try to swap distributors.
Same with the ECU. try it in another car. or try another ECU in your car.
is it a known good dizzy? take the cap and rotor off and see if there is any obvious damage.. if you have access to another one try to swap distributors.
Same with the ECU. try it in another car. or try another ECU in your car.
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (h22crxpwr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22crxpwr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you have a CEL on? if you do then you can check the codes with a small plug located under the glovebox area. you have to jump it with a wire then the CEL will flash. the Flashes determine the codes its throwing. have you checked all of your fuses as well? none blown? they may not look blown but could be. i always check both sides of the fuse with a test light. i had one that did not look blown at all but the test light didnt light. changed the fuse and the car fired right up.
is it a known good dizzy? take the cap and rotor off and see if there is any obvious damage.. if you have access to another one try to swap distributors.
Same with the ECU. try it in another car. or try another ECU in your car. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I checked all fuses with a light and they were good. I don't know if its a good dizzy, it came with the swap from hmotors. I checked the rotor and it kinda loks wore out. I have a d15 dizzy on hand... will that work?
is it a known good dizzy? take the cap and rotor off and see if there is any obvious damage.. if you have access to another one try to swap distributors.
Same with the ECU. try it in another car. or try another ECU in your car. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I checked all fuses with a light and they were good. I don't know if its a good dizzy, it came with the swap from hmotors. I checked the rotor and it kinda loks wore out. I have a d15 dizzy on hand... will that work?
06-03-2008, 02:39 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
could I be 180 degrees off on the distributor. I did a cam swap and thought I put it back on right. Could that keep it from firing being 180 degrees off?
I also have a chipped p28 from phearable. I tried the diagnostic plug and the srs light kept flashing. Can I even check codes with this computer?
I also have a chipped p28 from phearable. I tried the diagnostic plug and the srs light kept flashing. Can I even check codes with this computer?
06-03-2008, 03:15 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
where you at h22crxpwr... you're the **** right now
06-03-2008, 03:17 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg_h22 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">could I be 180 degrees off on the distributor. I did a cam swap and thought I put it back on right. Could that keep it from firing being 180 degrees off?
I also have a chipped p28 from phearable. I tried the diagnostic plug and the srs light kept flashing. Can I even check codes with this computer?</TD></TR></TABLE>
you should be fine to check codes. not sure why the srs light is flashing? the dizzy wouldn't slide into the cam easily if it was 180'd. did you check your timing? are the gears and the crank pulley lined up? since you did a cam swap... what cams did you put in? did you adjust valves? check to see if they are too tight..
I also have a chipped p28 from phearable. I tried the diagnostic plug and the srs light kept flashing. Can I even check codes with this computer?</TD></TR></TABLE>
you should be fine to check codes. not sure why the srs light is flashing? the dizzy wouldn't slide into the cam easily if it was 180'd. did you check your timing? are the gears and the crank pulley lined up? since you did a cam swap... what cams did you put in? did you adjust valves? check to see if they are too tight..
06-03-2008, 03:27 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (h22crxpwr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22crxpwr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you should be fine to check codes. not sure why the srs light is flashing? the dizzy wouldn't slide into the cam easily if it was 180'd. did you check your timing? are the gears and the crank pulley lined up? since you did a cam swap... what cams did you put in? did you adjust valves? check to see if they are too tight.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I swapped blox b cams and adjusted valvles and I'm pretty sure the timing is right. You think it could be something as simple as my rotor
you should be fine to check codes. not sure why the srs light is flashing? the dizzy wouldn't slide into the cam easily if it was 180'd. did you check your timing? are the gears and the crank pulley lined up? since you did a cam swap... what cams did you put in? did you adjust valves? check to see if they are too tight.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I swapped blox b cams and adjusted valvles and I'm pretty sure the timing is right. You think it could be something as simple as my rotor
06-03-2008, 03:31 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
When I got a new cap for it from auto zone the one for the prelude didn't fit. so I got a del sol one and it fit.
06-03-2008, 03:53 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg_h22 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When I got a new cap for it from auto zone the one for the prelude didn't fit. so I got a del sol one and it fit.
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why is it this happened
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why is it this happened
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg_h22 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
why is it this happened</TD></TR></TABLE>
prelude has an external coil. you got the right cap. recheck your timing. make sure it didn't skip a tooth or more....
go back over your wiring as well. change the rotor and try it. does the ignitor look okay, sometimes its all burned. but then again it can look fine. try swapping it with a good one. ignitor is easy to change. if it still doesnt spark change the coil. with the ones from your d15 dizzy (if you know they are good)
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prelude has an external coil. you got the right cap. recheck your timing. make sure it didn't skip a tooth or more....
go back over your wiring as well. change the rotor and try it. does the ignitor look okay, sometimes its all burned. but then again it can look fine. try swapping it with a good one. ignitor is easy to change. if it still doesnt spark change the coil. with the ones from your d15 dizzy (if you know they are good)
06-04-2008, 02:15 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (h22crxpwr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22crxpwr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
prelude has an external coil. you got the right cap. recheck your timing. make sure it didn't skip a tooth or more....
go back over your wiring as well. change the rotor and try it. does the ignitor look okay, sometimes its all burned. but then again it can look fine. try swapping it with a good one. ignitor is easy to change. if it still doesnt spark change the coil. with the ones from your d15 dizzy (if you know they are good)</TD></TR></TABLE>
what wiring should I check or where should I start considering the "spark" issue?
prelude has an external coil. you got the right cap. recheck your timing. make sure it didn't skip a tooth or more....
go back over your wiring as well. change the rotor and try it. does the ignitor look okay, sometimes its all burned. but then again it can look fine. try swapping it with a good one. ignitor is easy to change. if it still doesnt spark change the coil. with the ones from your d15 dizzy (if you know they are good)</TD></TR></TABLE>
what wiring should I check or where should I start considering the "spark" issue?
06-04-2008, 02:49 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg_h22 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what wiring should I check or where should I start considering the "spark" issue?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i'd change the igniter and coil. now its going to be trial and error until you find the problem. did you try another ECU yet? are the plugs and wires new? and change the rotor, or use the d15 one if it was good before.
what wiring should I check or where should I start considering the "spark" issue?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i'd change the igniter and coil. now its going to be trial and error until you find the problem. did you try another ECU yet? are the plugs and wires new? and change the rotor, or use the d15 one if it was good before.
06-04-2008, 05:52 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (h22crxpwr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22crxpwr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i'd change the igniter and coil. now its going to be trial and error until you find the problem. did you try another ECU yet? are the plugs and wires new? and change the rotor, or use the d15 one if it was good before. </TD></TR></TABLE>
It fired up after I hanged the coil but it sounds like a misfire or a valve not opening properly. cam lobes look fine. are the cam gear arrows supposed to point the same direction? both of my gears are pointing to the front of the car.
all in all the car runs but it sounds like its missing
i'd change the igniter and coil. now its going to be trial and error until you find the problem. did you try another ECU yet? are the plugs and wires new? and change the rotor, or use the d15 one if it was good before. </TD></TR></TABLE>
It fired up after I hanged the coil but it sounds like a misfire or a valve not opening properly. cam lobes look fine. are the cam gear arrows supposed to point the same direction? both of my gears are pointing to the front of the car.
all in all the car runs but it sounds like its missing
06-04-2008, 06:36 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
we took a look at the spark plugs and #3 cylinder isn't firing. What do you think could be causing this?
06-05-2008, 12:53 AM
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Did you check the plug wire for the no. 3 cylinder or try a different wire?
BTW, what prob you had with camp1320? Just curious...
BTW, what prob you had with camp1320? Just curious...
06-05-2008, 08:45 AM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (pcguy760)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pcguy760 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you check the plug wire for the no. 3 cylinder or try a different wire?
BTW, what prob you had with camp1320? Just curious... </TD></TR></TABLE>
I bought a $500 header from them and it didn't fit. On top of that, after they sent out quantities of headers to unsatisfied customers, they then shut off all forms of contact. Yeah... grimey!
BTW, what prob you had with camp1320? Just curious...
</TD></TR></TABLE>I bought a $500 header from them and it didn't fit. On top of that, after they sent out quantities of headers to unsatisfied customers, they then shut off all forms of contact. Yeah... grimey!
06-05-2008, 09:04 AM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
Check your firing order... and are those new spark plug wires and plugs? change the #3 and get new plugs.
06-05-2008, 01:27 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (h22crxpwr)
firing order is good. Will a plug wire from my d15 work?
06-05-2008, 01:29 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
btw wish you weren't so far. that crx is lookin like potential 
06-05-2008, 01:52 PM
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Re: h22 swap in civic... NO SPARK???? (eg_h22)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg_h22 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw wish you weren't so far. that crx is lookin like potential </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah and its ready to go!! just needs motor/trans/ and ecu!! even has 2 sets of custom axles!
anyway back to your issue. the d15 one i think should fit in there. try it out and see if its long enough to reach the plug. i've used plug wires that were WAYYYY too long before just to get a car running.. funny looking with them sticking out real far but it worked! just to test it will be fine...
</TD></TR></TABLE>yeah and its ready to go!! just needs motor/trans/ and ecu!! even has 2 sets of custom axles!
anyway back to your issue. the d15 one i think should fit in there. try it out and see if its long enough to reach the plug. i've used plug wires that were WAYYYY too long before just to get a car running.. funny looking with them sticking out real far but it worked! just to test it will be fine...