Future.

Whats up guys, ive been around for a while but havent actually found all the information i need for the h22 swap into the EG. Now i heard about the h2b kit and im even more confused. I tried to search but im still confused on different aspects of it. I have a couple questions:

1) You have to buy the h2b kit in addition to the h22 right?

2) You have to buy the h22 complete change over right?

3) What all would i need besides the h22, like axles or whatever?

4) How much more is the h2b kit?

5) How much would labor cost for the h22 swap and/or the h2b kit?

6) Is there anything i should be worried about in doing this swap?


I know i have more questions, but i just cant think of em now, so i may post them later. You guys can go ahead and flame, but im just looking for some help. Hopefully this could help a lot of other people with the same questions too.

Thanks, any help is appreciated.

CGags13

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1) You have to buy the h2b kit in addition to the h22 right?

2) You have to buy the h22 complete change over right?

3) What all would i need besides the h22, like axles or whatever?

4) How much more is the h2b kit?

5) How much would labor cost for the h22 swap and/or the h2b kit?

6) Is there anything i should be worried about in doing this swap?

Thanks, any help is appreciated.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Answers:

1.NO you do not need to buy the h2b kit..that kit just lets you use a b series tranny with a h motor...it helps with axle alignment and the trannies have their respective benefits...search about b vs h trannies for more info

2.By complete changeover im confused...but you do need: an engine, tranny, axles, computer(unless youre going hondata), shifter, shift cables, and all your other parts like seals and **** before you put the engine in

3.NEED h22 for eg mounts!!! You can search for your axle options there is a shitload of threads on it...or you can buy dss axles, frog axles, or whatever other ones are out there

4. An h2b kit is around one grand..then you need a flywheel, and clutch ontop of that...i dont know if you need to buy shift linkage separately and then a b series tranny (at least you wont have to fork out for a h tranny though)

5. Labor will be pretty pricey..i would make an educated guess at least 1500 esp if youre having them do a timing belt and seals on ur engine, and the wiring is more considerable than a b swap

6. Nothing you should be worried about but I do have some thoughts for you here: GET a LSD tranny, set up ur suspension well after you do the swap (it weighs a little more than a b series swap), DONT do this swap unless you are mechanically inclined or seriously have enough cash to pay someone

PS:there is an offical h into eg civic thread: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=650329


Modified by CGags13 at 7:18 PM 1/30/2006

Future.

Thanks for all the answers. By complete change over i mean this:

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30015

compared to this:

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30016

I know i dont need to buy the h2b kit, and i know i need the mounts, thanks. Uhh..I guess ill probably just go h22 then h2b down the road..I know i am gonna get the LSD, and about the labor costs, i mean if you buy the h22 for 2200 then add labor it would compare to the b18c5. Im not doing the swap myself, so ill talk to some local shops for some quotes.

Thanks again for the help. Some more input would be appreciated.(from anyone )

skunked

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Future. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for all the answers. By complete change over i mean this:

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30015

compared to this:

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30016

I know i dont need to buy the h2b kit, and i know i need the mounts, thanks. Uhh..I guess ill probably just go h22 then h2b down the road..I know i am gonna get the LSD, and about the labor costs, i mean if you buy the h22 for 2200 then add labor it would compare to the b18c5. Im not doing the swap myself, so ill talk to some local shops for some quotes.

Thanks again for the help. Some more input would be appreciated.(from anyone ) </TD></TR></TABLE>

On the http://www.quartersportsdrag.com webpage there is an FAQ that will anwser all your questions.

Here is a thread on my H2B conversion https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1475661

2point2

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6) Is there anything i should be worried about in doing this swap?

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someone should comment on the EGs hood clearance.. i beleive you need a raised hood but I could be talking out of my ***.

skunked

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someone should comment on the EGs hood clearance.. i beleive you need a raised hood but I could be talking out of my ***. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Like I said:

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On the http://www.quartersportsdrag.com webpage there is an FAQ that will anwser all your questions.
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MrMike

how many people actually run the H2B besides skunked??I might have to try this on an accord one day.

skunked

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The accord would be a difficult project to accomplish. It would require custom linkage, mounts and axles. Not impossible but the kit was not designed for that chassis.

PS- I know of a dozen cars on HT with the kit.

Future.

The f.a.q. says you need a customized hood for the EF, would i need one for the EG too? Also, this is just for the h2b right? Or would i need a new hood for just the h22 swap?

Thanks.

skunked

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The regular H22 swap would not require any modification or spacing of the hood.

The H2B EG/DC only require the hood to be spaced in the rear near the windshield. Some others have made there own hoods or scoops as well. The DA, EF and CRX require the more spacing or hood modifications.

Future.

Thanks. Ill will post up some more q's if i can think of em.

Future.

OK, i have another. I emailed a local shop about an h22 swap and they said around 5k-6k, including the h22. So lets say 2500 for the h22, which means the swap would cost around 3k for the labor.

I read in another h22 thread that since the h2b kit would make the swap easier and, it would be cheaper. Is this true? 2500 plus around 1k for h2b..would it be that big of a difference?

Thanks.

vtecspeed1320

from what i have heard about the h2b swap is you only need the b series mounts. all shifting linkage hooks up like a b series tranny cause that is what your using. no cutting holes and stuff. man come to my house we will swap your h22 together or something you only have to pay me a grand to do the swap forget that 2500 or 3000 for swap ****...

Future.

Yea not very happy about the price, but i really have no exp. working on engines or anything, im only 17.

edit: so would the h2b make the swap easier(cheaper)?

vtecspeed1320

like i said man i would totally help you if you want it aint anything what car is this swap going into.

Future.

Thanks..hopefully an eg hatch or coupe.

edit: oh, and also...im not trying to build a race car here, i was just looking into the h22, i dont wanna get into something that will cost alot of $$$. Id look into the h2b if it would be cheaper than the regular h22 swap would.


Modified by Future. at 10:36 PM 2/2/2006

vtecspeed1320

yeah well you can always do this. find an h22 without trans maybe pick that up for 900-1000 h2b kit 850-950 gsr trans 600 **** you only have 2700 thats a full gsr swap but h22=much more fun.

Future.

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Yea, i was looking in to the b18c5, but the h22 would be around that price, and i like the h22 better.

I was also looking into the b18c1, which i would boost down the road, but i wouldnt want to deal with boost..emission and crap like that.

Decisions, decisions..

vtecspeed1320

the c5 is way more than a full h22 swap with h2b kit and tranny...you can almost start a turbo kit with the extra cash you save. You can boost the h22 better than gsr. closed deck engine on the h22 its one of hondas strongest boost to moderate 8psi and tune good your looking at some serious fun.

Future.

Yea..im gonna start slow though. btw..i said "3g hatch or coupe"..i meant EG lmao.

vtecspeed1320

yeah i seen that i was like hmmm...eclipse guy?

Adam.

After you get over the hump of putting the h2b together, yes, it will make the swap a hair more simple. The h22 swap isn't difficult anyways. If you gave a bseries swap a 3 out of 10. I would give the h22 a 4 out of 10.

Future.

but would the h22 with h2b be cheaper (labor) than just the h22?

Turbogixxer

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it matters the shop, they should be around the same. H2b maybe a bit more because of the driver's side frame rail and the the motor position.

Adam.

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If you had them put together your h2b, then it would definitely be more expensive. They have to do both the conversion and then the swap.