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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 05:48 AM
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What are the downsides of an H22. Im getting one pretty soon and what to know what the downsides are. Besides the hard install and axel problems(which i heard are solved pretty easy) what else is there? I mean 200 hp and 163 lbs of trq. and its still decently priced. Is there something else?
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:05 AM
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You won't be as cool as guys with a B18C5. JDM Yo. Type R ownzzzz you.

Seriously, if you're not disuaded by the axle thing and the wiring then I say it is a superior swap. Just take the time and do it right. Also, you'll probably need stiffer suspension.

Thats the way I rationalize it when I am planning my H22A swap anyway.
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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What are the downsides of an H22........ I mean 200 hp and 163 lbs of trq. and its still decently priced. Is there something else?
Yeah.... your fuel economy, but that's the price you pay for more power/displacement.

People complain or nit-pick about the "little" things such as axles, wiring, etc, but all of that can be fixed with the right setup or modifications. When you have the motor in the car, running perfect, there really isn't any downsides to it except the noticable stuff like fuel economy, ground clearance (with a large header and your car lowered a lot), and possibly slight understeer or chassis flex when going into a corner a high speeds but those can also be remedied with a little tuning to the suspension and/or frame structure of the car.

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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 09:25 AM
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fuel economy to a point. I'm still pullin in 350 miles to a tank and still pulls hard

up until i get a walbro 255, the i might be hosed
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 03:55 PM
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fuel economy to a point. I'm still pullin in 350 miles to a tank and still pulls hard

up until i get a walbro 255, the i might be hosed
I can only get 280-300 until the e lights comes on with the 255walbro, also the handling myth is all BS.
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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You are also gonna need heaver springs to hold your front end up...
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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fuel economy to a point. I'm still pullin in 350 miles to a tank and still pulls hard

up until i get a walbro 255, the i might be hosed
I can only get 280-300 until the e lights comes on with the 255walbro, also the handling myth is all BS.
the handling thing is the biggest BS i've heard.
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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i know someone that gets slightly better gas mileage then his stock 1.5L

shifts under or at 2000 rpm in the h22 for daily driving
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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fuel economy to a point. I'm still pullin in 350 miles to a tank and still pulls hard

up until i get a walbro 255, the i might be hosed
I can only get 280-300 until the e lights comes on with the 255walbro, also the handling myth is all BS.the handling thing is the biggest BS i've heard.
the handling is BS. and fuel pump, does suck....fuel. i only get 250 per tank. soon to come. injector resetor box, and B&M FPR w/ gauge. that should help feul econmy
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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i know someone that gets slightly better gas mileage then his stock 1.5L

shifts under or at 2000 rpm in the h22 for daily driving
i get MUCH better gas mileage than my d16z6
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Old Feb 5, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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i think i got the understeer problem covered though. when i did my front end swap i lost alot of weight. i used all aftermarket parts that werent built as strong(heavy) as the stock parts. I also have a CF hood which helps out a little. The stock bumper absorber in the front weighed about as much as all the parts i put in. Granted my car will crumble in the front end if i get into an accident but it might solve the weight issue. I probably lost about 70-80 lbs. Will that help out at all??
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 03:55 AM
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you should come down to Hackettstown and take my car for a spin...... nevermind dont bother, you'll see there is no downside.


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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 07:21 AM
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How big is the EK hatch gastank? I get about 270 miles till my gauge reads E but the light never comes on.. I fill it up and only put 9 gals into it. . It's an Si cluster, so it may not read the same as it should.. Thoughts?
Oh, and by the way, once its in and working, as they said, it's an AWESOME swap. I LOVE IT.
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 07:29 AM
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Damn. How are you guys getting such good gas mileage w/ your h22 swap. Before w/ the stock fuel pump I was getting about 200 miles to the tank and filling up about 8-8.5 gallons. Now with the walbro 255, im only getting about 180-190 miles. This is mostly street miles though, and very little highway miles. I rarely take out the gears and mostly shift at around 3k. I cruise in 5th gear everywhere i can. My cars not tuned or anything and im running the p13 ecu. I don't get it.

I used to get 31-35 mpg with my 1.5l all street miles. That was dope. Haha. But those days are gone now.
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Old Feb 6, 2003 | 08:07 PM
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Default Re: Downsides of an H22. (EK22Tim)

How big is the EK hatch gastank?
i think it is about 13 gallons. anyways, is the fuel pump upgrade a requirment or an upgrade?
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 09:52 AM
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about the handling thing being a myth... not so true in an Ef... the weight displacment is hurendous...

when I had my Eg that was the swap I wanted to do... now I want to do a b18c for my little ol rex...




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Old Feb 8, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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does anyone know about the fuel pump??
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Old Feb 8, 2003 | 10:36 AM
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Default Re: Downsides of an H22. (98civichtchback)

does anyone know about the fuel pump??
Fuel pump can be upgraded to a Holly or Walbro 255 lph fuel pump.
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Old Feb 8, 2003 | 11:07 AM
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Default Re: Downsides of an H22. (poison)

GROUND CLEARANCE MYTH OR TRUTH?

banged up header? dented oil pan?

for someone who puts an h22 into an ek and is dropped pretty low will ground clearance be a problem? the only thing i fear is ground clearance.

h22 civic owners: what is your drop? measuring from the green arrows i posted.


excellent post btw
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Old Feb 8, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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1.5 drop will be fine, i mean, anymore, and u get camber issues which result in big traction problems
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Old Feb 8, 2003 | 11:57 AM
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my car is slammed 2" all around and have ZERO problems with axles, never dented the oil pan or header. (just have to drive around carefully)
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Old Feb 8, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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banged up header? dented oil pan?



I'm lowered 2" and I have a banged up header and dented oilpan
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Old Feb 8, 2003 | 07:22 PM
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I ordered some springs that are about 2.3" drop and I am doing an h22a swap right now. The company is not responding with my springs so I probably will look at something else. What are some good springs to get? and what other goods do I have to get to make it work? (camber kit?)etc...
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Old Feb 8, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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2.3 inch drop thats kind of excessive, i mean ur gonna start bashing up crap, not to mention ur camber wont be at 0 degrees anymore meaning traction will be gone forever
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Old Feb 8, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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I know I'm just going to get the Neuspeed springs.. the middle ones, not the extreme ones. The drop will be 1.5". That's real good for me, especially in a town infested with potholes!
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