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Old 02-09-2010, 09:50 AM
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Is there any way that p/s can be kept with a H2B swap? I've been searching and so far everyone says that you can't or to just do away with it. From what I have read, the F20B doesn't have p/s which is a bummer since that is what I originally wanted. Anyway, I live in Texas and it's either you freeze to death(winter) or burn to death(summer). Input is much appreciated.
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just read that you can keep a/c with the H22. sweet.
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A lot of people just don't have the room in their engine bay to fit p/s. they already have to bash the frame rail to make it fit without it ><
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well i've read that you will have to modify the hood a bit for clearance with the engine alone. No problem with that. For A/C, I can get the innovative brackets. As for P/S, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm going to need to use the the H22 pump and custom lines as well as a custom serpentine belt?
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Yes you can run a/c. You are going to have to make custom a/c lines to fit. Because of the change in angle of the motor. You can go down to your local a/c shop to have them make them for you. Now your p/s is a different story. You are going to have to hack up your headlight and frame rail. just to get to fit and I don't mean alittle bit of hacking either.The f20b has the bolt holes to hook up p/s. It's the same cast as the h22.

The innovative a/c bracket works like a champ too. I had a/c in mine for a couple of months. I took it back out for winter and because I needed a new dryer and compressor. p/s is to much of a hack job for me to do. Just put in a manual rack.
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Default Re: A/C and P/S with H2B swap?

the f20b that i have is the sir and it have the bolts on the head for a h22 p/s pump
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I would just install a manual rack.
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I don't mind hacking up stuff. Thanks for the advice guys. I may just be able to get a F20B after all.
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I'm moving to a hilly mountainous area in TX so I think P/S would be of great value to me. especially with this car being my DD.
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rad. I just found out what is needed to run both A/C and P/S. Here it is for anyone interested...
quoted from EVIL-EK:
ac is a breeze. just order the bracket that uses your factory single cam pump. Power steering is a little tricky. You have to use a 97-01 prelude bracket and pump combo and I am not 100% sure but I think the EK ps line bolts up to that year pump.
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Default Re: A/C and P/S with H2B swap?

Ive heard of that bracket being used for non-h2b, but I've yet to come across a picture of an H2B bay with p/s.

I am going to make every effort to manage this however by going serpentine and an extra idle pulley. Will let you know how I get on. Have to rebuild the H22A first
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I would sure love to see someone attempt this and take there time to make it look clean. I did some measuring, if you move your crank pulley in a half inch and then make a p/s bracket that lines up with the crank pulley. You might not have to notch out your frame rail at all. It will be a very close fit but you'll still have to hack up your head light for sure. I do think you'll have to get a custom p/s line. Because the h2b sits the motor forward. The civic p/s line will come up short.

I think I'm going to give it a try. I have a cheap pair of black housing headlights. That I can cut up to see if it would work. As long as I dont have to cut my frame rail I'm down to give it a try.

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Default Re: A/C and P/S with H2B swap?

sup guys, any updates? Interested in your results.
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Default Re: A/C and P/S with H2B swap?

H2B:F2B:
Evolution/Bisi has more clearance on the driver side frame rail then QSD Kit
If you ran say ESP 1/2" over alternator kit and Kaizen Speed Balanace Shaft Eliminator Kit and ran the spacer on the outside of the crank pulley...

There is a chance PS may work with factory H22 Pump and Bracket slotted 1/2" to passenger side. But this is just theory. I can't imagine the PS being that close to the headlight housing with the H2B even with the massive tilt but then again I have never done one of these abortions lol just teasin...

AC would not work in this case. Our Alternator Brackets work with PS but not AC.
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Default Re: A/C and P/S with H2B swap?

For the PS I use the Peugeot elettric pump.
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Default Re: A/C and P/S with H2B swap?

I will let you know when I start my H2B project. Im going to build a custom ac bracket with alternator bracket to tensor the belt. I cannot live without A/C in north Ca.
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Default Re: A/C and P/S with H2B swap?

any updates guys?
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Default Re: A/C and P/S with H2B swap?

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Default Re: A/C and P/S with H2B swap?

i can tell you p/s will work, iono bout a/c since my car never came with it haha
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I know p/s can be done but im not to sure about the a/c.
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I run p/s with my QSD h2b. I use a toyota MR2 electric pump. The pump is mounted using an installation kit from Karcepts. The kit bolts where the transmission side torque mount was. The system, alough noisy, functions just as good if not better than the oem belt driven system. I use the oem p/s rack, the supplied high pressure hose from karcepts, and the oem resevoir.

To use a prelude pump, you would have to cut out a large portion of the framerail and headlight housing. The electric setup is cut-free
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im using the integra p/s pump, its running inline with the crank pulley so no cutting of frame rail required
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Default Re: A/C and P/S with H2B swap?

Originally Posted by the171
I run p/s with my QSD h2b. I use a toyota MR2 electric pump. The pump is mounted using an installation kit from Karcepts. The kit bolts where the transmission side torque mount was. The system, alough noisy, functions just as good if not better than the oem belt driven system. I use the oem p/s rack, the supplied high pressure hose from karcepts, and the oem resevoir.

To use a prelude pump, you would have to cut out a large portion of the framerail and headlight housing. The electric setup is cut-free
Now this is a good idea if you must have PS with an H2B, no hp loss from having to drive the pump but you still have PS, I like it. Never even thought if that.

Manual rack is just fine for me though, only time turning is a prob is when I'm at slow speeds on slicks with 8psi in them anyway.
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Default Re: A/C and P/S with H2B swap?

is it just me or does h2b swap eg hatch feel like it somewhat has PS.
its not as bad as my gsr teg without PS
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Default Re: A/C and P/S with H2B swap?

Originally Posted by aznfreakyguy
im using the integra p/s pump, its running inline with the crank pulley so no cutting of frame rail required
how did you manage this? even with my ps pulley shaved off I still hit the framerail.


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