DevinW

Your I/H/C/E setup is the exact same setup I'm planning on doing..

How much of an improvement did you feel over the stock exhuast? Nice times by the way...

SuperCivic

opinions on the skunk2 manifold...

storminmatt: thinks it's the best mod he's ever done to any motor.
JalopySiR: saw a night and day difference

My opinion: definately feels like the motor is breathing better all through the power band. the biggest improvement is felt from 5500 up to 7000 where i shift. the power used to completely die out about 6000 rpm, but now it pulls hard right up to the 6800-7000 shift point.

daver

just a little questio for you supercivic.

Is the fast idle valve attached to the skunk2 mani (right below the TB, like on my '90 ls one) or is it attached to the bottom of your throttle body (like my b20 one).

The reason i ask is it will determine whether or not i can use my '90 bored ls TB or not. I understand all ls style skunk2's are the same...

d

JCushing

mines on the intake mani next to the TB...

if you want to see a picture ill email it to you....

ek44

i was comparing skunk2 mani vs ls mani with all the machine work done - port, match and polish, bore throttle body, runners, etc.
what will be better? advantages, more hp gains, more reliable?
either the skunk2 or the ls mani with machine work done.
thank you.

btw, watts the redline for a jdm b20b? thx.

JCushing

the skunk2 has shorter runners... i belive no matter what it would be better

besides its pretty cheap i got mine for under 300 bux shipped

StorminMatt

1. The best OEM ECU for the B20 is the 1994-1995 P75 ECU. The 1992-1993 PR4 is also good and is in fact much the same as the 1994-1995 P75. The 1990-1991 PR4 makes for easier wiring on 1990-1991 cars but is not as good. For OBDII cars, just stick with the B20 ECU.

2. The best OEM intake manifold for the B20 is the 1994-1995 LS. But the Skunk2 is better. MUCH better. Especially if you were using the 1990-1993 LS intake manifold (which is a very poor choice). The ITR intake manifold is actually very much the same as the Skunk2. But it requires modifications to fit a B20 head. I cannot say much about the Venom or STR, as I have never tried any of these. But these intake manifolds seem to be geared more toward forced induction use or power in the extreme high RPMs. The Skunk2 is probably better for street use.

3. The B20 head is actually the same head as the B18B head. And both the B18B and B20 heads are MUCH better than the 1990-1993 B18A head (which has smaller ports). Your best bet (and the easiest way to go for a non-VTEC engine) is to stick with the B20 head.

4. I am still trying to decide which cams are best. Nobody makes an actual B20 cam. But Crower, Crane, and Web make new cams for the B18A/B18B. And these work on the B20. I personally do not like the dynos I have seen for Crower cams, as they seem to lose alot of power in the lower RPMs. I have also heard reports of cam breakage with Crower cams. Web's cam looks good. But I am not sure how they would work on a B20. Crane makes good quality cams. But I have seen no dynos of their cams anywhere.

ek44

thx for the info.
a friend has wb cams in his b20 and he likes it very much.
hes pulling about 160hp to the wheels and 130 tq with the web cams.
thses are also the cams im planning to get.
any one knows the ecu code for a crv (b20) ecu?
thx.

VTECVillain

I have a similar setup in my 91 CRX DX except I have a 96 B18B1 with 92 YS1 tranny. I used the HASport billet mounts and I haven't had any problems with hood clearance. I was really surprised though because looking at it I thought, man this thing is not gonna shut but it did.

JDMFreak

here my 2 cent... if your on a budget you can used the LS cams to help out the b20

hondaeg5

whats the web site for web cams.

Charlie Moua

iTrader: (3)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StorminMatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. The best OEM ECU for the B20 is the 1994-1995 P75 ECU. The 1992-1993 PR4 is also good and is in fact much the same as the 1994-1995 P75. The 1990-1991 PR4 makes for easier wiring on 1990-1991 cars but is not as good. For OBDII cars, just stick with the B20 ECU.

2. The best OEM intake manifold for the B20 is the 1994-1995 LS. But the Skunk2 is better. MUCH better. Especially if you were using the 1990-1993 LS intake manifold (which is a very poor choice). The ITR intake manifold is actually very much the same as the Skunk2. But it requires modifications to fit a B20 head. I cannot say much about the Venom or STR, as I have never tried any of these. But these intake manifolds seem to be geared more toward forced induction use or power in the extreme high RPMs. The Skunk2 is probably better for street use.

3. The B20 head is actually the same head as the B18B head. And both the B18B and B20 heads are MUCH better than the 1990-1993 B18A head (which has smaller ports). Your best bet (and the easiest way to go for a non-VTEC engine) is to stick with the B20 head.

4. I am still trying to decide which cams are best. Nobody makes an actual B20 cam. But Crower, Crane, and Web make new cams for the B18A/B18B. And these work on the B20. I personally do not like the dynos I have seen for Crower cams, as they seem to lose alot of power in the lower RPMs. I have also heard reports of cam breakage with Crower cams. Web's cam looks good. But I am not sure how they would work on a B20. Crane makes good quality cams. But I have seen no dynos of their cams anywhere.</TD></TR></TABLE>

can you give me your explanaiton of why you don't like to power curve/band?
I'd like to hear more about what you think. I honestly think it looks bad *** for a non-vtec motor.

...sorry to bring this back for the dead...
I just wanted to see if there were any new info out there, also if anyone has done what they set out to do on their setups.

Blaze45

Im stayin non vtec as well more power to the non vtecs!

set up

JDM B20B 9.2 cr
LS tranny
fpr/press. gauge
msd wires/ngk plugs
akimito intake
dc ss 4-2-1 headers /w. cut out hehe open exh rules
ctms. stg 4 clutch
massaged exh ports

Im thinkin about http://www.EF-1.com cams L21s. Jalopy Sir made 20 WHP with tunning, he was using the ef1 regrind. Im trying to decide IM or cams.... or both yeah!!!

BEST PART the cams are 200 w/ cores....

lets keep this thread up

Blaze

juicedricer

non vtecs!!!!
i have the lil brother b18b and i luv it. so far 14.6 on crappy pep boys tires. i/e/clutch
i myself want to do non vtec power with a goal of 160@whp.
the setup i am going to try is
ctr pistons and rings.
port&polish head w/ portmatched manifold
crower cams(any other cams suggested)
valvesprings retainers(crowers also)
remapped ecu
4-1 JDM header(axxis)

what else would i need to push that much hp???? would i come even close with this setup???? i am trying to break 13's and maybe even deep deep 13's with a dry shot of nitrous. any help would be appreciated

Blaze45

EF-1 cams...... check the web site above that I posted.

Blaze

juicedricer

good prices on those cams but i couldnt find any prices on valvesprings there just the retainers unless my stupid *** isnt thinking correctly :-P

anyone ever use these cams b4?

jdm4life

Much better w/ my current setup w/ the added stage 2 act clutch and full exhaust....but still on OEM LS header my current time is 14.5 That is on the same OEM VX wheels and tires bllllahhhh. I lined up to a white Type-R at the track when I got this time. I had him by 2 1/2 cars or so and he recieved a 14.7. The only thing he did w/ his car was a cold air system w/ no filter for that run. I do have LS mesh wheels w/ some nice tires and i hope to see if that will help lower my time a lil. Goin vtec head soon.....so i'll be using a skunk2 mani w/ a jdm dc sports 4-1 header w/ ApexI VTEC V-AFC. Wish me luck.

Blaze45

I have talked to him and he said that he had some for the LS/B20s....

Blaze

Evil P

b20 non-tec, luv the pull

boywonda

alot of talk about the cams but can the stock b20 b18 bottom handle a higher rev limit??

Blaze45

B20s and B18s can be revved to 8k. dont do it everyshift of everyday and you should be fine, I know peeps who take it to 8k stock head and it runs fine.

Blaze

juicedricer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blaze45 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have talked to him and he said that he had some for the LS/B20s....

Blaze</TD></TR></TABLE>
i posted on his site waiting to see if he'll post back i am really interested in those cams, but i am still unsure i want regrind cams. u have any idea what the price is on his valvesprings and retainer set????? i want to get my valvetrain b4 mid summer

Tripz

anyone using web cams 148e new billet cams (not regrinds) in their b18b/b20's?

any info or input on these new billet 148e's would be appreciated.

are the new billet 148e's cams any good?

would the stock b20 bottem end hold up to the web billet cams high revs?

thx.

b20 non-vtec power!!!!

Aero Deck

This is great! We should get our own section in the forum for non-VTEC enthusiasts! Then we could just go there to talk instead of weeding through all the VTEC stuff. You can make the same kind of power with a non-VTEC motor, only at the cost of fuel economy and smooth idle. So what? Non-VTECs are more old school and that's what Im all about. Im running a B18A in a 90 Integra: bottom end rebuilt to stock specs, stage 3 port and polish, 1mm oversize Ferrea valves with swirl polish, gasket matched ports, milled .001, complete Crower valve train, Skunk2 IM, Crower 62402 cams, stock gears(for now), AEM CAI, CHikara header(for now, getting AEBS or HY-TECH),GReddy MX catback, MSD 6 ignition, and Place Racing spec ECU. I think I'll get some cam gears, some dyno time, a GSR tranny, a 66 mm TB, and a Fidanza flywheel. And last but not least A B20Z block. Wish I had gotten some higher compression pistons when I had the motor rebuilt over a year and a half ago but I couldnt afford them......

juicedricer

yea thats **** we should someone tell a moderator to do that......theres enough of us......