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Old 03-07-2004, 06:27 PM
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Ok here are the details.

Droped in a Sir II from a 92 JDM Honda Integra Xsi obd1. Chasis is a 91 Civic Dx hatch. The car had sat for about 14 months until today, at first the car wouldn't turn over at all so i rechecked everything again and found that my alternator bolt wasn't tightend down to the hot wire. So i charged the battery and tried...still nothing... So then i made sure that the crank would turn by putting a torque wrench on my crank pully bolt and giving it a few turns (still on jack stands) it turned with no problem.

Well after having a cold one and wondering where the hell all of this sun came from, after 2 weeks of rain... I decided to get bold and i figured since i live on a fairly steep hill maybe, just maybe i can jump it from a rolling start... So now im sitting at the bottom of the hill ...but now my car turns over when i attempt to start it so im feeling a tad bit better

Well i end up talking to this guy who lives @ the bottom of the hill who has a mr2 pushing 10lbs of boost. after a short pow wow about my swap, he offers to take me to pep boys. (real nice ride) I picked up some 108 octane booster and a couple of cans of that quick start and some fuel stablizer(car was sitting on a full tank of 91)...


A short time later at the bat cave, after using about a can of that quick start, (i had previously drained 3/4 of the tank.) and added 4 gallons of fresh 91 and the fuel stablizer and the octane booster the car actually fired up for about 3 seconds... it has done this about 3 times but i need to add alot of the quick start to the intake manifold every time... do you guys think the gas is bad or could there be another issue?

I dont have my o2 sensor hooked up so i do get a code 1 on my pr3 but the car should just run in limp mode, right? maybe i'll drain the full tank. i would have drained the whole tank but i wasnt enviromentally frindly and killed a section of my mother in laws grass.... is the fuel just dead even with the octane booster and fuel stabilizer? maybe also i'll change the fuel filter...


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Ok i drained the fuel tank added a few galons of 91... checked all of my vaccum lines....and got my o2 sensor situation taken care of....got the firing order correct... but all the engine does is turn over, however if i put quick start in the intake manifold it will actually sputter for 3-4 seconds then die. any help?
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Default Re: B16 Wont start after swap. Long... (paybac4223)

definatley something fuel related, but just to be 110% sure check for spark on all 4 plugs.

im gonna say fuel filter as first step but definatley check for fuel even entering the rail.
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lol i'm thinking that you are getting no gas at all to your injectors, thus you putting fuel to the intake throttle body starts the car for a few seconds till it burns that gas up, check your fuses and the main grounds to your motor bro, then make sure your fuel pump is actually pumping gas up by cracking a fuel line off your fuel filter or some where, and injector or whatever, but at least that way u know if your getting gas. hope it helps out
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Default Re: B16 Wont start after swap. Long... (paybac4223)

this sounds to me like a ingintion problem, coils maybe? change of spark plugs? maybe try cleaning your fuel injectors.
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Default Re: B16 Wont start after swap. Long... (EG6[B16A1])

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EG6[B16A1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">]this sounds to me like a ingintion problem, coils maybe? change of spark plugs? maybe try cleaning your fuel injectors.</TD></TR></TABLE>
if it was ignition it would run when he sprayed starting fluid into the intake.
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Default Re: B16 Wont start after swap. Long... (Kamin)

well i took a spark plug out and hooked it up to see if it fires... it doesnt seem to fire. But why would it actually sputter for a few seconds before it dies?

I even loosened the bolt on the fuel rail and have fuel there.

I disconnected my two connecters on the dizzy and hooked up a test light to all the individual wires. I only get a light on 1 connection on the smaller connecter of the two...... any suggestions???
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im thinking something distributor try getting your ignition module tested my dx crx w/b16 would start sometimes but would soon die and that was my problem
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i have a dx dizzy laying around and swapped out the ignitor and it still doesnt get any spark to the plugs....and i tried diffrent plugs and wires also....
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ok so let me get this straight bro, you r not getting any spark, it seems ood that it would start for a few seconds then, but if your not getting any spark check your main ignition relay, the one that sits up just above and next to your hood latch pull lever. its a grounded relay so if you hook up a new one make sure you bolt it back on, its just held on by a 10mm bolt, hope this helps you out, this would cause it to not spark and just turn over, its a pretty common thing with hondas
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yo don't forget to check the grounds, off the tranny, and ect....
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got it started....finally!!!! it was the dizzy connections...
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Default Re: B16 Wont start after swap. Long... (paybac4223)

I have a similar issue and need to know what exactly was wrong with your connections so I can check that. Im desperate!
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