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Old 12-01-2002, 04:56 PM
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hey all. I own a 91 CRX (AUTOMATIC) and i want to swap in a b series engine. the old d series transmission will not bolt onto the b block correct? so, does this mean i'd need an automatic b series transmission, or convert the car to manual? i really do not have the resources to change over to manual... in which case, am i basically stuck in the ZC range? on me... help please
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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (turbomonkeyexpress)

never seen anyone run a auto b16a...

I would like to hear it......
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just convert to manual
youll thank me when you see your timeslips.
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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (KAMiN)

You can use an LS automatic, but an ECU to control the tranny and VTEC will be difficult to arrange. Maybe an LS-auto ecu remapped with VTEC maps?
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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (ATXhybrid)

they did make a few automatic b16's and h22a's in Japan from what I understand... I know of a website that can get you an auto tranny w/ b16, I'll try to post it later if I can find it again
Old 12-02-2002, 06:37 AM
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Just to let you know, the automatic B16's have less HP at 150hp instead of the usual 160-170hp in the manual ones.
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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (Pat McGroin)

i understand the vast improvment a manual would be over an auto, i just dont have the money or resources to dump into it all.. meybe i should just sell ( ) my baby and get a manual one
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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (turbomonkeyexpress)

uh.... the auto B series swap will be just as expensive as a 5speed B swap. You won't have to buy the clutch stuff, but the slushbox trannies cost more, and the ecu will likely cost you more. You can NOT use the tranny in your car now.
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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (KAMiN)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KAMiN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just convert to manual
youll thank me when you see your timeslips.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree


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I did a jdm b16a auto swap in my 95 civic. I did it because my d15 took a crap and I have to keep my car for awhile and wanted a fresh motor(could not find a good d15/16). B16a auto's are much cheaper than a 5-speed. I got mine from hondamotorsonline for 1800 shipped which include engine, trans, and ecu. There is a catch however. My upper trans mount had to moved an 1/2 to 1" foward. So I had to re-weld the mount. Other than that, it was bolt-in. As far as you crx, it might be a more complicated swap.

Here are some links
http://www.angelfire.com/az3/hondawagon/
http://coreyonline.tripod.com/crxmainpage.html
http://odin.prohosting.com/delsol94/...l/AutoSol.html


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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (turbomonkeyexpress)

I have a 91 CRX DX it was an automatic. I put a 96 B18B1 motor with 92 GSR manual cable tranny in it. In your case, a B16A swap would be no different. If you buy a 1st gen B16A swap with manual tranny it will drop in with a mount kit. You don't need to reweld or modify the mounts at all.
In addition to the basic swap, you'll need a mount kit, shift linkage and a manual pedal board. You could also get a first gen B16A with automatic tranny but I think you would be much happier with a manual
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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (zerofighter777)

i had the same problem when i did my swap auto to stick and b18 My upper trans mount had to moved an 1/2 to 1" closer to the fire wall and flipped up side down . And re-weld the mount. Other than that, it was bolt-in. As well but well worth it to see that hatch haul some ***.


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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (turbomonkeyexpress)

i understand the vast improvment a manual would be over an auto, i just dont have the money or resources to dump into it all.. meybe i should just sell ( ) my baby and get a manual one
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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (couter)

i got all the automatic parts bseries part for sale if you need it. PM or email me if you need parts...

and as for prices of both, it really depends. if you do a ghetto *** manual, like a cable tranny, or a pos ls one, then eh, it might not be worth it. im assuming you want to swap and get some power...
i would only swap if you get a good manual transmission like si/R/gsr and a lightened flywheel. i say wait till you got the money for it, adn then do it...

do it once, and do it right...

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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (AzN_Flava)

should i Bypass the BS and buy a 94 Del Sol Vtech 1.6 DOHC manual with 87,000 on it and a new clutch and exhaust? they want 5200$ for it but for a 17yearold, getting a loan means full coverage and i dont know how much insurance will be
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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (turbomonkeyexpress)

i understand the vast improvment a manual would be over an auto, i just dont have the money or resources to dump into it all.. meybe i should just sell ( ) my baby and get a manual one
There really is not that much involved in converting an automatic to a manual. All you really have to worry about is getting the pedal cluster for a manual car and drilling a hole in the firewall for the clutch cable. All the other stuff (like the shift linkage) is changed in the swap anyway.

By the way, I don't think it is even possible to mount a B-series automatic transmission in a 1988-1991 car. A typical Hasport or Place Racing transmission bracket won't work.
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I have an auto b16 1st gen tranny if you're interested
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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (Goldenboy1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goldenboy1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have an auto b16 1st gen tranny if you're interested
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um im pretty sure he got this resolved newbie this thread is ALMOST A YEAR OLD
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Default Re: Automatic with B16-18? (turbomonkeyexpress)

you should do an auto to manual swap, its worth it. you'll like t better anyways
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i got the parts needed for the auto to manual swap in my classifieds below
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jesus **** do you people not look at the dates of the thread?!
THIS THREAD IS A YEAR OLD
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hey i know its a year old but damn, it popped up and i was just trying to help
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There are both obd1 jdm B16a ( out of an sir II) and jdm b18c1 automatic motors that will fit your crx. get one and boost it, you wont be sorry.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">jesus **** do you people not look at the dates of the thread?!
THIS THREAD IS A YEAR OLD
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haha, no **** Kamin... too funny

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jayp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get one and boost it, you wont be sorry.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's probably one of the most retarded thing I've ever heard... Not only is the gearing totally WRONG for boost but auto trannies aren't made to handle any form of FI... Trust me that's a total waste of time, it isn't hard at all to swap to manual... The only time I would consider an "auto" style (airshift/sequential) tranny is for a 800whp+ SP/FWD or Hot Rod car, hehe In that case (if they are legalized this year) then you drop $20K and don't have to worry about shattering gears and cracking main/countershafts... Those trannies are designed with boost in mind, their gearing is correct and they are stronger than OE counterparts... OE automatics don't work like that... Just my $0.02
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