See, that's the thing, I'm neither hard parking nor drag racing. And to answer your question in short... Potential and Fun. I have seen what K-series engines have done in other cars and don't want to regret getting an S2000 when I could build something more fun to drive for cheaper. So which do you think was more fun to drive... Your old civic or the S2000?

Again, I appreciate all of your answers, opinions and comments.

 

Its required you are a virgin to buy one. So Id say you are an ideal candidate.

 

The S2000 is about 100,000,000,000,000X more fun than my civic. No regrets buying my S2000. But I do HPDE (road race) mine.

If you're talking about what a K series ENGINE can do in a civic....then yes....the civic has more potential as it will ultimately be faster.

I don't really care about that. The S2000 has class, style, looks, options, features, technology, status, handling, etc. etc. advantages over the Civic.

 

Well see, that's the thing I was thinking about. Since I am planning on building my Prelude and probably going turbo... I would have a quick car...and a pretty S2000 that's fairly quick.

The other option I have been toying with is getting a FD RX-7 and putting in a LS1.

 

Why? All motor 20B...

 

Mostly because of the price. LS1's are pretty cheap. Cheapest I have seen 20B's go for is like $4000.

I could do an LS1 and Smaller turbo setup for that.

 

An LS1 RX7 sucks IMO. The rotary is really the only engine I'd want in that car. Rotaries are really cool...and the RX cars are the only ones that they come in.

 

Oh, I agree with you in that rotaries are awesome engines. Though I will say I have heard bad things about their reliability. And the price of the rotaries are through the roof. I could pop 2 LS1's for the same price as one rotary. But that's just my opinion. Plus I have seen that the power potential for the LS1's are pretty good stock.

 

[QUOTE=AP1_man;37035116]kinda have to disagree. a k swapped civic/integra has more potential and will walk on s2k in most circumstances.

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i agree, my k24 integra walks all s2k by me, though i want one so bad. someone want to trade?????

 

The rotary can be reliable. Plus...having a nicely set up rotary is WAY cooler than having a LS1 swap IMO. Why buy that chassis if you don't want a rotary in it? The LS1 swap brings us back to the classic dillema: Hard park? Drag? Both? The car will be way off balance. Ever driven a FD3S with the 13B in it? Fun fun fun.

Plus....uncorked rotaries sound F'ing awesome.

I'd personally do something insane like a triple rotor or something like that rather than the LS1 swap. I don't know that much about rotaries....so I'll stop there.

I think a ton of the RX7's attitude and character and uniqueness comes from the rotary. Just like the S2000's attitude, character, and uniqueness comes from the motor that's in it. It's the same as doing the 2JZ swap. It's fast...but I think (and a lot of other people think) that it's lame.

Whatever, though. We're just arguing opinion. Nobody's right or wrong.

 

I'm not even arguing. I enjoy hearing other peoples opinions. I hope you didn't think I was arguing with you about anything. To each their own...its what makes building cars so awesome. Anybody can put anything in any car...its personal choice.

And to answer your question about "why the chassis of not the motor?" That's like asking every person that every has done an engine swap why they bought the car if they didn't want the motor. Sometimes you just love the lines and body style of the car but have different idea's for a build. And its not that I don't like the rotary...I just like the sound and potential of the LS1 for the price.

Thanks for your opinions BTW. I really do understand where you are coming from... Rotary's are pimp sauce.

 

comparing a fwd civic to a s2000 is pointless, go drive one and you wont look back.

financially smart is an entire different point and id doubt it would be your best interest but im not your accountant so spend away.

 

my k24 dc2 does 11.84 1/4 mile times on drag radials (all motor), and i drive by s2k at sebring. and its my dd

 

you do drive buys in your S2K?? :0

 

You drive by stock S2000s at sebring? My street tire 100% street driven S2000 with full interior, etc. runs faster than slicked out hatches with motor swaps at gingerman. I synced up a youtube video....and it seems like I run about as fast as some turbo ITR at expo.

After doing this, I change nothing on the car...turn on my WORKING AIR CONDITIONING...drive to hooters with my nice quiet stock exhaust listening to music on my nice stock sound system, and then go out for the night. Using the same car with no changes.

I also do this in more class and style than any civic/integra. When I pass materialistic girls...they give me more attention than civic/integra owners.

Hmm...choices choices. FWD econobox or real sports car?

 

I have to say that your last statement about "real" sports car can only be truely made by the person who owns the car. If I have a 600+ "econobox" I would consider it a "sporty" car. Plus, I don't really care that much about "pimp status" when it comes to the S2000. Yeah, they get looks...but if I were to pull up at a car meet with a bunch of guys who knew anything about cars with a fully turbo'd out 500+ HP "econobox" they would probably be more impressed by that than a stock S2000. Not saying a stock S2000 is bad...I would just be more impressed by the car making a lot more horsepower weather it was a moped or a Ferrari.

Not saying you are not correct in you would probably get more chicks...chicks don't really dig rough riding cars. But who cares...Girls are normally to dumb to know anything about cars to begin with (please don't kill me girls on here that DO know about cars...you are not the same) and go for whatever looks more expensive.


But ALL that being said...to each their own. I love cars...fast ones, slow ones...whatever.


P.S. - I can still listen to music in my motor swapped hatch. I just have to turn it up a little louder. hahaha.

 

I have a civic too. I don't think a crazy turbo civic would impress me as much as a nicely modded S2000. I don't think most of my friends would be that impressed by the turbo civic either.

I don't care much about getting chicks. I have a GF allready.

Pimp status is different from class.

 

qft!!!

 

lolol.

Too bad I can't stand materialistic girls.

So my "econobox" is working in my favor. Woo!

 

 

What are the modifications done to the S2000?

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Nevermind, I found the specs on both cars and there is probably 1/3 the amount of money put in the closest civic (SportCar Motion). I would expect the S2000 to be as fast as it is with all the money and body lightening that was put into the car.

 

Ok...let's go stock to stock.

Also...do you ever notice how a good header for a civic is like $600 and a good header for the S2000 is around $1500?

Parts cost more for the S2000.

 

Well you can't really compare stock to stock.

S2000 was engineered to be a "sportcar" from the factory. A civic hatch was made to be an economy vehicle. It's comparing Apples to Oranges, they are not the same type of vehicle.

Now I would say compare a equally tuned Civic to a stock S2000. 210HP S2000 vs 210HP Civic.

I'm not saying that the C-West S2000 isnt impressive. Or that S2000 parts don't cost a ******** to buy. I'm just saying there is a lot more work in that S2000 to make it quick. Doesn't seem to be quite a fair match-up. I could be wrong... I am quite often.

 

You're saying based on horsepower, the cars are equally tuned?

What if the S2000 still handles better? What about the S2000's extra weight?
There's a lot more work in an S2000 to make it quick?

They run 13s out of the box. Stock civics run 17s out of the box.

A STOCK S2000 can usually take out a tuned civic.

The only thing I have to do to my S2000 to make it run high 13s is sit on the couch and have more nachos. You'd have to do a motorswap or some other work to a civic.

First you're talking about handling, then drag racing, then handling, then quickness, then this then that. What are we comparing?

You want to compare a "tuned" civic to a stock S2000 without any guidelines? How's that fair? I could tune a Geo Metro to be faster than a Ferrari with enough work.

 

Then there is no way to compare both cars. Cause if a civic with 210hp isn't a fair match to a stock S2000 with 210HP because of the weight issue...then I don't know how you could compare them.

And by a "tuned" civic, I just mean a engine swapped civic with an engine that is capable to do 210hp and "tuned" so that its running right and efficient.

I just mean 210hp vs 210hp.

But then its STILL not exactly fair because of the suspension and other factors that the S2000 has from the factory that the civic does not.

I have no experience with racing S2000's seeing as I dont really street race.

I mean, I am not saying the civic IS better. I honestly don't know. Just from what I heard earlier from some guys...even an engine swapped civic with mods doesn't have **** on an S2000. Then again, I have also heard it takes a **** load of money to get any HP out of a S2000...if you want any serious gains you have to go F/I.

Again, I am not arguing or trying to make anyone mad or anything... I am just curious how an S2000 will do against your every day tuned Civic, Mustang, Firebird... etc.