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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Hey the search is down so i figured i'll just ask...i was thinking of going with the spoon progressive springs and koni yellows for a conservative drop...does anyone have any experience and or pics of the spoon springs on there car and how is the ride? I'm not looking for an extreme setup but i wanted a conservative setup that will more than likely never see track use...Ive read tens of spring threads in here but alot of the springs drop a lil to low for me...I want to maintain the suspensions stroke as the roads here near dc are utter crap...any outside suggestions also welcome
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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with that said, dont bother replacing your shock... just search for better spring
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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well i thought it was world renowned that if u lower w/ just springs you'll wear shocks out faster...all i want is about a 1inch drop and the spoon spring rates are designed to work w/ the stock shocks(low spring rates), or so they say, and they drop about 20mm which equates to around .9 inches..i wanna be able to put 2 fingers between my tire and wheel arch
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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get swift mach springs and keep your stock shocks. swift drops 17mm in front and 25mm in rear.

http://www.swiftsprings.com - best springs you can buy imo

25.4mm = 1 inch

if you want new shocks, get the spoon dampers (built by showa).
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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i think stock shocks are made by showa .... (wild guess)

the valving of that spoon one is just different than the stock one... ( still a guess)
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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yah the stock shocks are made by showa

and yes, the spoon shocks are showas revalved to accomodate the stiffer spring rate of their progressive spring.

i recommend it because it's still OEM quality and the ride is great. i am going to sell my setup only because i want to get the fully adjustable showas with stiffer springs...for the street though, this setup is perfect from my experience with it. it's much less harsh than the stock setup even, but stays planted in the turns and absorbs bumps much better.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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wow im a genius!!! HAHAHAHAH
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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well if you were to recommend the spoon dampers wouldnt they be valved for the spoon progressive springs? wouldn't this make the spoon/spoon combo the optimal choice? Immortal do u have any pics of your ride on the swift/spoon spring/damper combo?
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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the swift rates and spoon rates are very similar, but swift springs are much better quality, mainly because of the material they use to make the spring. you can read all about it on their web site.

yeah - http://railmaster.net/profile.jpg

http://railmaster.net/thes2k.jpg

the ride is more like a german car if you've ever been in a benz.. it's plush when going straight over bumps but tightens up very nicely when taking turns. very predictable.


Modified by immortal at 3:38 PM 3/6/2007
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Swift springs are lighter too, if you're that nitpicky.

Spoon/Swift is a great great combo, and very track-worthy.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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spoon progressive spring is fine with stock shock... the spoon shocks are for stiffer spring rate for aggressive driving... yes you can use the progressive spring with spoon shocks but it would be useless in a sense you never track. spoon do have N1
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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thanx for the insight....for some reason getting aftermarket shocks as well no matter what springs they are just seems right to me...

immortal do u have pics of ur S on swift springs?
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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S2000 shocks are valved stiffer than most other cars anyways. Compared to a Civic shock that would blow out with stiffer springs, stock shocks are comfortable up to about 6 kg/mm spring rates.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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i posted the links in my previous post.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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oh im sorry...thank u
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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wow...I think my decision has been made... how long have u been on stock shocks?
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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i havent, i have the spoon dampers.

http://railmaster.net/showa.jpg nice spoon yellow!


you can run them on stock shocks though, swift rates are 4.6kg/mm front 6.0kg/mm rear.

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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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man the only spoon/showa dampers i found were 2250 for the S...ive been googling "showa dampers" and many other variants to find everything for any honda vehicle but the S

n/m...found em...thanx for all the help everyone
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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immortal wanna sell your setup sometime soon?
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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i got mine from opakracing.com

i am selling my setup soon, pm me when you were interested in getting it i'll tell you if its in my time range.

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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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most affordable best bang for your buck and track worthy setup, koni shocks with your spring of choice (eibach, swift, etc) Koni shocks are racer proven, daily driver proven, and easily rebuildable (even by yourself).
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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the consensus was that konis were unnecessary for just the street w/ only about an inch drop from swift springs? no
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wifesaynogo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the consensus was that konis were unnecessary for just the street w/ only about an inch drop from swift springs? no</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is a comment so take it with a grain of salt, the koni's are legal in racing classes that only allow you to upgrade the shock, but must run the stock spring. The koni shocks have two perches, one set of stock ride height, another that will lower the car 3/4"-1". The fact that you can have them revalved, rebuilt, etc is a great. They're a widely used, very good shock. I wouldn't even consider running lowering springs on stock shocks unless I couldn't afford new shocks. Then again, if I was in that boat, I wouldn't waste the time/labor on springs without buying new shocks for them, even for a street only application.
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