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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Crap ... so since you bought it new .. were there labels or something that showed you what the fronts were? Because from what I understand the springs have nothing on them except "espelir" no rates no nothing .......
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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I had sticker labels on both fronts and rears.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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teawins - do you have pictures (side profiles) of your car?

I am getting conflicting opinons now ... thx
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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.......... im getting responses for both sides. Either they're installed correctly or not ... is there someway i can confirm before I do an alignment?
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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I'll snap you a quick side shot tomorrow. But thats pretty bad though... Do you really want your front that much higher then your rears?

The only thing I can suggest for you to be 100% certain is to get the model number of each springs, then call espelier to confirm.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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hey sorry didnt post earlier. Anyways I took my front wheels off and preloaded my bushings again in the upper control arms it helped I geuss
I didnt preload them enough the first time around. Go try it its really simple. Jack up car, take wheel off, loosen the too uper control arm bolts, get another jack, jack up the the spindal so that the upper control arm looks parallel with the growend or a lil higher, then tighten the bolts, take the jack out from underneeth the spindal, put tire on, drop the car back down, retighten wheel, and that should haelp
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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I will try that Black S2k

Teawins .. the problem is the springs do not have any part numbers! I mean hell they only have "espelir" on them .... nothing else. pics will be appreciated.

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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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sorry for the first crappy pic the sun was all in my face lol. But yea after I preloaded my bushings for the second time it dropped down a good .25"
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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Thats just about how mine looks as well.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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Curious where can I purchased Espelir springs?
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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springrates.com has them for a pretty good price.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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hmm .. your fronts are about a finger lower than mines ... let me retake some closer pics and compare.

Thanks!
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:15 AM
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^^^ thats after I preloaded my bushings for the second time. my front was just about as high as yours. Im telling you man go do it I think thats the only reason why your front sits like that.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:40 AM
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I have an ap2 also. I have a set of espelir on Koni Yellow's... the whole driver side sits .25 inch lower than the passenger side... I have double checked everything. The springs came labeled with sticker reflecting which was front and rear... You would think the manufacturer would do this for you so it wouldn't be a guessing game. I still haven't done a full alignment yet because im still trying to figure out why the difference in height... keep you posted... I feel your pain.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black S2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^^ thats after I preloaded my bushings for the second time. my front was just about as high as yours. Im telling you man go do it I think thats the only reason why your front sits like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do I need to preload all 4 corners? I mean the rear is a little lower than yours .. would that make it higher? lol ..

I will ask the guy if he can redo it or something ... the sucky thing is that the alignment will be delayed for another week or so
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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Nah I just did the front, your rear looks lower cause you got bigger rims so it fills up the wheel well pretty good. And dont worry about the allignment you have to wait about a moth for the springs to settle(drop a lil more then when first installed), b4 you get allignment done. And preloade your bushing yourself, I told you how to do it just need two jacks 1 17mm wrench and b4 you do anything make sure your e-brake is up. It allways feels better when you do it yourself.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black S2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And dont worry about the allignment you have to wait about a moth for the springs to settle(drop a lil more then when first installed), b4 you get allignment done. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you only really have to wait a week or so... a month might be a lil overkill... plus depending on how much u drive, it will increase wear on ur tires
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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We dropped my buddies car car on espelir asd's a week later he got his allignment done. Then 3 weeks later he has negative camber out the *** again becuase the springs didnt settle fully in the first week so he had to get it alligned for the second time. When he could have waited 3-4 weeks and then get the allignment done. Its been about a month sinse I dropped my s2k on the asd's and I still havent gotten allignment done the negative camber wear isnt that bad I can barely tell. But then again I dont crae about my tires cause they are crap im waiting to come accross some better ones.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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haha... and u have those crappy AP1 rims... haha jk... u should prolly just buy my AP2 rims...

my swifts settled in like 4 days... no more drop after that... Swift Ftw
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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Lol im all about the crappy ap1 rims just wish they were wider.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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Ok, i've gotten so frustrated at this same exact dilemma that i had to take pics at 2:30am right now. My passenger front sits .5-1" higher than my driver front. I finally decided to take apart the passenger side front today. Redid it over. Made sure it was 100% right and it was the front spring as i still had the sticker on it. Well it made no difference. Then i just read to preload the fronts. So i was so anxious to try this that i went in my garage at 2am to try it. Made no difference at all. I've had the springs on my car for almost 1month and a half. The weird thing is is that my passenger front, even though it sits higher, has really really bad negative camber wear. A lot worse than the driver side.

Here are the pics. Pics arent great cause my garage is kinda tight.
DRIVER FRONT:

PASSENGER FRONT:


I KNOW i need new tires, i just ordered them this week from discount tire direct. Badass sale


Here is a pic of the front and the rear of the DRIVER side. It sits perfect. Just the passenger side is screwed up
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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^ ok now my car looks like your rear, and your passenger front for both of my fronts lol .. they are lowered evenly with a two finger gap .....

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