thanks enthalpy, glad we have a nissan sr 20 specialist on board

There are so many names and silvia versions around the world. We name the S13, 180sx and S14 200sx. I think you guys get 240sx for the s14. I think the 240sxs is 2.4L and miss out on the turbo .

Enthalpy, is the diff housing ie mounting points the same in the 240sx and the JDM S13 over your side of the wood? I am using a diff for the JDM s13, 180SX. What car can these guys get this diff from over in the US?

BTW that's a huge turbo on your sr20 mate

 

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heheeh sorry but true
I know a member on here has got 2 in his shed atm

 

how much did the cnc machine run you? and wher eyou buy it from?

 

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:lol: if you are after a CNC machine you are on the wrong forum
it's not mine and I don't htink it's for sale anyway
it's around $100,000 AUD

hey I am only a honda enthusiast....not a multimillionaire

 

the 4-bolt rear cover bolt pattern is standard on any S13 240sx here in the states and canada. however the 5-bolt output flanges on the diff are not us/canada spec. those are japanese/au spec. we have a 6 bolt (3 pairs of bolts) pattern on our s13 and s14 diffs. the s14 diff has a totally different rear cover pattern with only 2 larger botls with a bushing mount on each. also...our Z32 NA diff is the same front half as the diff you used (4.08 LSD w/ 5-bolt output flanges) but you have to swap over the rear cover from an S13.

everyone got that???

 

thanks for the info enthalpy

the 6 bolt flanges ( 3 pair of bolts) are on the s15 and possibly the s14a in australia.

the rear bolts are the same as US specs. You can also order an after market rear cover that can accomodate extra diff oils and has larger cooling fins....very popular with drifters in AU.

What about the front bolt pattern enthalpy?
Are the spindle (that trispoke thingy) in the inner cv joints the same specs in these CV joints ie are the axle changable?

Thanks for all of these info....I am learning heaps.

 

Soooo, Z32 NA diff with an S13 rear cover gets us the diff to fit this kit in the US, right?

But what difference does the rear cover make? Is there any reason a complete Z32 diff wouldn't work with this kit?

 

i think the Z32 rear diff has a different rear cover. i'll have to check.

 

or a JDM S13 diff
here is one on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=WDVW

 

you might want to think about upgrading the lsd in that thing... the viscous coupling stuff dosnt last, it only took me 3 weeks to "break" my vlsd in my 240. sticky tires and donuts will render the vlsd useless. a better alternitive might be to get a non lsd s13 diff and put a quaife or other aftermarket lsd in. you can also get the r200 from a 95 infinity j30, just make sure to swap the back cover w/an s13 cover

 

the one I am using has a kaaz 1.5 way mech lsd...it should survive.

 

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yeah. from what i hear those can take some abuse. hell my 240 has a stock single cam ka in it and i already killed the vlsd

 

Don't misundertand the aim of this conversion.

S2k owners are plagued with the weak drivetrain dilema. The main aim of this conversion is to prevent failures in the weak diff housing, weak crownwheel/pinion and weak axles. The torsen lsd is not that strong either and no where near as strong as the nissan vlsd. After a few hard launch the lsd will have extra noise.

The nissan diff housing, crown wheel and pinions are almost indestructible. The viscous lsd will wears and fails like any brake pads when subject to heavy abuse. These are easily replacible with so many aftermarket indestructible mechanical lsd.

 

[QUOTE=honda9krpm]Don't misundertand the aim of this conversion.
[\QUOTE]

im not... i know the s2000 is weak in the area of the diff housing, etc..

i am just giving forward warning.. i'd hate to see someone do all this work and end up with one tire fire b/c they used a stock nissan vlsd

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda9krpm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't misundertand the aim of this conversion.

S2k owners are plagued with the weak drivetrain dilema. The main aim of this conversion is to prevent failures in the weak diff housing, weak crownwheel/pinion and weak axles. The torsen lsd is not that strong either and no where near as strong as the nissan vlsd. After a few hard launch the lsd will have extra noise.

The nissan diff housing, crown wheel and pinions are almost indestructible. The viscous lsd will wears and fails like any brake pads when subject to heavy abuse. These are easily replacible with so many aftermarket indestructible mechanical lsd.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so what kinda power are we talking about here?

 

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so what kinda power are we talking about here?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I can guess with confident that the upgraded parts will not be blown up by the amount of power that the head bolts can hold.
However, the next weak link will be the gearbox, stock driveshaft and outer cv.
There are solutions for these aldready. There is not much that you can't make with a CNC and gear teeth splining (mill) machines

So it will come down to how much power you want, how many stronger parts you can afford Vs how fast you want to travel


Modified by honda9krpm at 12:36 AM 5/3/2005


Modified by honda9krpm at 12:41 AM 5/3/2005

 

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Any update on this enthalpy?

I did not realise you guys in the US have so many options with the diffs. The more the better because there are more sourcable/usable parts now and later on (if anything fails)

So far I think you guys have these options with this kit
1. order the whole kit. Higher freight cost is the only concern.
2. Get the JDM S13 diff (as found on ebay) locally and get the rest from the K&A motorsport
3. Get the US S13 diff locally and the rest from the K&A motorsport. You need to specify to KA which diff you have (ie the ouput flange)
4. Get the US 13 diff or Z32A diff locally and order the mounting brackets and front snout/flange from K&A. You then get the custom axles and CV from your side of the wood.

NB: You can only use a Z32A diff if the front of the diff is identical to the s13 diff ie the front flange for this diff is interchangable with the s13 diff. The rear diff cover are all interchangeable with nissan diffs. If the Z32A hasn't got a 4 bolts patter, you will need to replace that with a s13 back cover or an after market one that can accomodates extra diff oil (eg a Nismo S13 rear cover plate) with 4 bolts.

 

here are all the parts from a far distance, sweet and simple!


if the stock outer cv joint crack, you can order a stronger outer cv joint from the DSS. I asked and they said it's $150 each.

 

what is the price on this kit?

 

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so what kinda power are we talking about here?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i was talking stock POWER wise of doing this? I have a friend that wants to turbo his S2000 with Tinker219 turbo kit but it kinda scared about doing this whole new rear end converstion.

 

well he's more fortunate than most of us who have been scare for a long time and still FI the s2k. At least he has these options after he boost his car.

I had a SC and now have a turbo on the s. Turbo is the better option imho. You won't break the stock drivetrain if you drive sensibly. You will certainly wear it out quicker though. You can still experience the exhilaration of VTEC and boost with gentle take off.

I broke mine axle and gearbox because I've organised for after upgrade parts aldready and also I had to be at the drag to support a good friend. It's a shame that I could not get the parts before the drag though No need to cry over spilled milk though

 

he really has gone turbo yet. ive been helping him out with a setup and i was doing a little research and i just happen to find this post and wanted to know, what we were getting into before anything started.

OBTW this is getting very interesting.

 

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i was talking stock POWER wise of doing this? I have a friend that wants to turbo his S2000 with Tinker219 turbo kit but it kinda scared about doing this whole new rear end converstion.</TD></TR></TABLE>

this rear end conversion is NOT nessecary to turbo your S..... this rear end IS nessecary if you want to drag race your car and do it without any worries....

 

again to the R&D in this but let's keep it non-commerical

 

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this rear end conversion is NOT nessecary to turbo your S..... this rear end IS nessecary if you want to drag race your car and do it without any worries....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Excatly what i was looking for.