My Nissan Diff Conversion project
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i'll call up my buddy that works at nissan.. and see if he can actually get it or not... i'll get you 100% answer next week...</TD></TR></TABLE>
i work in nissan parts, and I can say for sure that you cannot order parts for foreign market cars unless the part # crosses over to a US or Canada market car.
If there is anything I can do to help you guys with this, i.e. diff shims or anything, let me know.
edit- og poster, are you in Australia? If you can get the part #'s for those boots, I can check the #'s out to see If we can get them.
i'll call up my buddy that works at nissan.. and see if he can actually get it or not... i'll get you 100% answer next week...</TD></TR></TABLE>
i work in nissan parts, and I can say for sure that you cannot order parts for foreign market cars unless the part # crosses over to a US or Canada market car.
If there is anything I can do to help you guys with this, i.e. diff shims or anything, let me know.
edit- og poster, are you in Australia? If you can get the part #'s for those boots, I can check the #'s out to see If we can get them.
As you can see it's a very simple and carefully designed custom kit
The stock prop shaft and outer CV are untouched to retain their strength and reused for cost saving on the conversion. If they break, later on with too much power, then they can be easily upgraded.
Modified by honda9krpm at 3:18 PM 4/27/2005
The stock prop shaft and outer CV are untouched to retain their strength and reused for cost saving on the conversion. If they break, later on with too much power, then they can be easily upgraded.
Modified by honda9krpm at 3:18 PM 4/27/2005
It's all done. However, when I blew my axle, I must have unloaded the gearbox and caused some damage. The gearbox is rattly and quiet when clutch pedal is engaged. Best scenario is stuffed input bearing, worst scenario is some missing teeth. So sorry guys, could not give it a proper test yet.
Here are some more pics
Heat treated axle

Nissan R33 GTSt inner cv joint


Right side done


Sorry I did not get a chance to take a picture when both sides were completed.
Diff parts number

Cracked axle after heat treatment. Faulty supplied material was blamed

CNC machine....any one up for more than 1 order

I was hoping to hit the track tomorrow but will have to delay it until the new gearbox, with PPG gears, is installed.
Modified by honda9krpm at 6:51 AM 4/29/2005
Modified by honda9krpm at 6:54 AM 4/29/2005
Here are some more pics
Heat treated axle

Nissan R33 GTSt inner cv joint


Right side done


Sorry I did not get a chance to take a picture when both sides were completed.
Diff parts number

Cracked axle after heat treatment. Faulty supplied material was blamed

CNC machine....any one up for more than 1 order


I was hoping to hit the track tomorrow but will have to delay it until the new gearbox, with PPG gears, is installed.
Modified by honda9krpm at 6:51 AM 4/29/2005
Modified by honda9krpm at 6:54 AM 4/29/2005
VERY Interesting. Good luck with your project. I give you mad big ups for just attempting this.
BTW..is that a DOS version of CADKEY is see..(taking it back to the old school
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BTW..is that a DOS version of CADKEY is see..(taking it back to the old school
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Mr Bagel, the currnent ratio is 4.1:1. There are a lot of other ratio for this type of diff. However, when you need this diff, the engine huge engine torque will make the change unecessary on the street. You may want to experiment with this on the drag strip to see if it make any difference on the launch with your setup.
blkturbos2k, this project was reserached and developed by Willall Racing and K&A Motorsport....and me
. I will post the contact info when I know who will promote/manage the sale. I am just a consumer
The axle was made by the workshop. They have a lot of machines in house to make all sorts of things. They make axles for formula karts, wrx, and many other performance cars.
Chillinit, sorry I don't know what CAD version was used. I have always leave CAD to the experts.....to hitech for me
blkturbos2k, this project was reserached and developed by Willall Racing and K&A Motorsport....and me
. I will post the contact info when I know who will promote/manage the sale. I am just a consumer
The axle was made by the workshop. They have a lot of machines in house to make all sorts of things. They make axles for formula karts, wrx, and many other performance cars.Chillinit, sorry I don't know what CAD version was used. I have always leave CAD to the experts.....to hitech for me
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just being a stickler...
stock rear gear is 4.08 for a R200 in your application.
i love your project though. i have been tunignand building S13's and S14's for a few years now and have never really seen a rear end fail!! i like seeing this type of ingenuity!
just being a stickler...
stock rear gear is 4.08 for a R200 in your application.
i love your project though. i have been tunignand building S13's and S14's for a few years now and have never really seen a rear end fail!! i like seeing this type of ingenuity!
thanks enthalpy. BTW how do you rate the s13 gearbox?
Chilinit, came back to the workshop today. I incidentially found out that the CAD is version 8. I got no idea what that is. Is that old or current ?
Chilinit, came back to the workshop today. I incidentially found out that the CAD is version 8. I got no idea what that is. Is that old or current ?
the s13 trans is reliable to around 350 ft-lbs at the wheels. above that you begin to shear off output shafts on hard drag launches. the bearings also start to whine around 350 ft-lbs becasue they wear out the races with the load. 400+ ft-lbs will result in occasional gear failure.
ehhh i wasn't able to get ahold of my buddy this week to ask him if he could get the parts over here...... (he has a freeking nextell phone.. so it's hard to contact him .... but soon as i get the info i'll post it...
Im planning on turboing my S2000 so Im very interested in this project. Unfortunately I dont know much about Nissans. Could someone recommend a Nissan diff thats readily available in the US?
The 240SX or the 300ZX?
The 240SX or the 300ZX?
Thanks guys
I've not had a chance to ask who will sell this product and the price tag. I think the price will be around $2-3k AUD shipped. You need to get the diff over you side of the wood. Personally, I wouldn't pay for any thing more than that. The price will probably be cheaper if there is a big group buy order.
Just curious who would be interested in this kit for that price. I can help you guys and negotiate something if there are enough interest.
Thanks for all the support.
I've not had a chance to ask who will sell this product and the price tag. I think the price will be around $2-3k AUD shipped. You need to get the diff over you side of the wood. Personally, I wouldn't pay for any thing more than that. The price will probably be cheaper if there is a big group buy order.
Just curious who would be interested in this kit for that price. I can help you guys and negotiate something if there are enough interest.
Thanks for all the support.
you will need a JDM S13 diff
Here is one on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=WDVW
They are god damn cheap over your side of the wood too
I expect some inflation real soon
Here is one on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=WDVW
They are god damn cheap over your side of the wood too

I expect some inflation real soon
The 2-3k is a guestimate price for everything. You will need to get a diff and inner CV joints. There is no problem of getting it overhere but you will or may have a higher freight cost for the whole package.
The kit comes with all fitting brackets and flanges to hook up to your existing subframes, outer CV and prop shaft. There is no cutting/welding/ any other form modification to the s2k required.
The kit comes with all fitting brackets and flanges to hook up to your existing subframes, outer CV and prop shaft. There is no cutting/welding/ any other form modification to the s2k required.
OK here is a run down of what I think is included in the kit
(There may be more or less depending on the distributor)
1. Rear mouting bracket for the diff

2. Front mounting bracket

3. A custom made front snout/flange (or what ever it is called). It replaces the front flange of the s13 diff and hook up directly to the s2k prop shaft

4. 2 custom axles that fits directly into the s2k outer cv and the inner R33GTSt cv joints. I think the workshop also took down measurement for a S13 inner CV joint.
5. other nut, bolts, cv boots, brits bracs etc etc for a plug and play setup for any home mechanics.
The kit is really simple and carefully engineered. The materials are of high quality and made from CNC, splining and heat treatement machines.
(There may be more or less depending on the distributor)
1. Rear mouting bracket for the diff

2. Front mounting bracket

3. A custom made front snout/flange (or what ever it is called). It replaces the front flange of the s13 diff and hook up directly to the s2k prop shaft

4. 2 custom axles that fits directly into the s2k outer cv and the inner R33GTSt cv joints. I think the workshop also took down measurement for a S13 inner CV joint.
5. other nut, bolts, cv boots, brits bracs etc etc for a plug and play setup for any home mechanics.
The kit is really simple and carefully engineered. The materials are of high quality and made from CNC, splining and heat treatement machines.
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the 240sx / 180sx (91+) / silvia (91+) / skyline Gts-t DIFFERENTIAL (R200) is capable of holding MUCH more than that. The transmission from 240sx / 180sx (91+) / Silvia (91+) (tranny id # w71C) IS capable of holding more than that as well...BUT not for long. the R200 is VERY tough. i have never seen one fail. W71C on the other hand i have seen alot of failures with.
the 240sx / 180sx (91+) / silvia (91+) / skyline Gts-t DIFFERENTIAL (R200) is capable of holding MUCH more than that. The transmission from 240sx / 180sx (91+) / Silvia (91+) (tranny id # w71C) IS capable of holding more than that as well...BUT not for long. the R200 is VERY tough. i have never seen one fail. W71C on the other hand i have seen alot of failures with.


