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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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i'll call up my buddy that works at nissan.. and see if he can actually get it or not... i'll get you 100% answer next week...</TD></TR></TABLE>

i work in nissan parts, and I can say for sure that you cannot order parts for foreign market cars unless the part # crosses over to a US or Canada market car.

If there is anything I can do to help you guys with this, i.e. diff shims or anything, let me know.

edit- og poster, are you in Australia? If you can get the part #'s for those boots, I can check the #'s out to see If we can get them.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 12:18 AM
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Here are a few more snap shots from today
The axles are being spline and heat treated at the moment. I hopefully can test out the new setup this weekend





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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 12:25 AM
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As you can see it's a very simple and carefully designed custom kit
The stock prop shaft and outer CV are untouched to retain their strength and reused for cost saving on the conversion. If they break, later on with too much power, then they can be easily upgraded.


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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 05:37 AM
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It's all done. However, when I blew my axle, I must have unloaded the gearbox and caused some damage. The gearbox is rattly and quiet when clutch pedal is engaged. Best scenario is stuffed input bearing, worst scenario is some missing teeth. So sorry guys, could not give it a proper test yet.

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Heat treated axle


Nissan R33 GTSt inner cv joint



Right side done





Sorry I did not get a chance to take a picture when both sides were completed.

Diff parts number


Cracked axle after heat treatment. Faulty supplied material was blamed



CNC machine....any one up for more than 1 order



I was hoping to hit the track tomorrow but will have to delay it until the new gearbox, with PPG gears, is installed.


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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 07:27 AM
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fascinating. love the setup.

related question: with the nissan diff, what gear / differentials are available or recommended?
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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hot damn you are crazy,... I love it though, if everything works out, that would be great.
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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Do you have a e-mail for the diff people? Please let me know. I will need this very soon. Are the axels from drive shaft shop in the usa
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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VERY Interesting. Good luck with your project. I give you mad big ups for just attempting this.

BTW..is that a DOS version of CADKEY is see..(taking it back to the old school )

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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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Mr Bagel, the currnent ratio is 4.1:1. There are a lot of other ratio for this type of diff. However, when you need this diff, the engine huge engine torque will make the change unecessary on the street. You may want to experiment with this on the drag strip to see if it make any difference on the launch with your setup.

blkturbos2k, this project was reserached and developed by Willall Racing and K&A Motorsport....and me . I will post the contact info when I know who will promote/manage the sale. I am just a consumer The axle was made by the workshop. They have a lot of machines in house to make all sorts of things. They make axles for formula karts, wrx, and many other performance cars.

Chillinit, sorry I don't know what CAD version was used. I have always leave CAD to the experts.....to hitech for me
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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just being a stickler...

stock rear gear is 4.08 for a R200 in your application.

i love your project though. i have been tunignand building S13's and S14's for a few years now and have never really seen a rear end fail!! i like seeing this type of ingenuity!
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 01:45 AM
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thanks enthalpy. BTW how do you rate the s13 gearbox?

Chilinit, came back to the workshop today. I incidentially found out that the CAD is version 8. I got no idea what that is. Is that old or current ?
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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the s13 trans is reliable to around 350 ft-lbs at the wheels. above that you begin to shear off output shafts on hard drag launches. the bearings also start to whine around 350 ft-lbs becasue they wear out the races with the load. 400+ ft-lbs will result in occasional gear failure.
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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ehhh i wasn't able to get ahold of my buddy this week to ask him if he could get the parts over here...... (he has a freeking nextell phone.. so it's hard to contact him .... but soon as i get the info i'll post it...
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Im planning on turboing my S2000 so Im very interested in this project. Unfortunately I dont know much about Nissans. Could someone recommend a Nissan diff thats readily available in the US?

The 240SX or the 300ZX?
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Thanks guys
I've not had a chance to ask who will sell this product and the price tag. I think the price will be around $2-3k AUD shipped. You need to get the diff over you side of the wood. Personally, I wouldn't pay for any thing more than that. The price will probably be cheaper if there is a big group buy order.

Just curious who would be interested in this kit for that price. I can help you guys and negotiate something if there are enough interest.
Thanks for all the support.

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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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you will need a JDM S13 diff

Here is one on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=WDVW

They are god damn cheap over your side of the wood too
I expect some inflation real soon
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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I thought the diff was capable of holding more than 350-400 ftlbs...
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Is tihs 2K with the axels? If so I will take one now. If not then thats alot for a pice of Alum
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Please list more details on whats all included in the kit and what will be needed. I'll need to do this sometime soon
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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The 2-3k is a guestimate price for everything. You will need to get a diff and inner CV joints. There is no problem of getting it overhere but you will or may have a higher freight cost for the whole package.

The kit comes with all fitting brackets and flanges to hook up to your existing subframes, outer CV and prop shaft. There is no cutting/welding/ any other form modification to the s2k required.
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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That's what enthalpy said blue.
He and I have never seen a JDMS13 diff failure.
Apparently the diff and gearbox in the S13 are the strongest in the nissan silvia family.
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Old May 1, 2005 | 03:09 AM
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OK here is a run down of what I think is included in the kit
(There may be more or less depending on the distributor)

1. Rear mouting bracket for the diff


2. Front mounting bracket


3. A custom made front snout/flange (or what ever it is called). It replaces the front flange of the s13 diff and hook up directly to the s2k prop shaft


4. 2 custom axles that fits directly into the s2k outer cv and the inner R33GTSt cv joints. I think the workshop also took down measurement for a S13 inner CV joint.


5. other nut, bolts, cv boots, brits bracs etc etc for a plug and play setup for any home mechanics.

The kit is really simple and carefully engineered. The materials are of high quality and made from CNC, splining and heat treatement machines.
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Old May 1, 2005 | 04:27 AM
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no wonder it getting harder to find parts for my car....you guy taking it all
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Old May 1, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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the 240sx / 180sx (91+) / silvia (91+) / skyline Gts-t DIFFERENTIAL (R200) is capable of holding MUCH more than that. The transmission from 240sx / 180sx (91+) / Silvia (91+) (tranny id # w71C) IS capable of holding more than that as well...BUT not for long. the R200 is VERY tough. i have never seen one fail. W71C on the other hand i have seen alot of failures with.
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Old May 1, 2005 | 06:38 AM
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honda9krpm- im glad to see some one finnally had enough fo the crappy s2k diff. i wish you the best of luck with this project
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